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Title: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Russell Nash on March 19, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
EP191: This Is How It Feels (http://escapepod.org/2009/03/19/ep191-this-is-how-it-feels/)

By Ian Creasey (http://www.iancreasey.com/).
Read by FNH (of The Cthulhu Podcast (http://cthulhupodcast.blogspot.com/)).
First appeared in Asimov’s (http://www.asimovs.com/), March 2008.

Guest Host: Tony Smith (of Starship Sofa (http://starshipsofa.com/))

Nathan’s eyes stung as he remembered how Jenny used to do just that: the same jump down the stairs, the same windmilling of her arms as she landed…. The grief swept over him like a palpable wave, making him stagger backward.

“Dad?” Christopher kicked his backpack down the hall to the door. “You all right?”

“It’s nothing,” said Nathan. He rubbed the implant-port behind his right ear. It’s nothing. It’s not real.

But it felt real.


Rated PG. Contains themes of death and child endangerment.


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Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Listener on March 19, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
Tony was an interesting guest-host. The ad for SSS went on a TAD long though.

As for the story... I figured it out about a minute before it was revealed, and was not disappointed. The concept makes sense, and the story was well-told, but I would have rathered Nathan defeated the implant the way he planned to (by facing the gravesite) but then made a conscious choice to slow down.

Unfortunately, slowing down these days isn't permitted because the moment you slow down you're fired. Perhaps this is a near-future story (2030 is pretty close), but I can't see there EVER being a slowdown in the work world.

Also, a minor point -- how long would Nathan lose his license for? Permanently? A year? A few months? I would think you'd lose your license for less time.

The story doesn't focus on it, but it makes me wonder about the kind of psychological damage the removal of the implant would do -- would you suddenly become more reckless? Or would your psyche be so messed up that you'd need psychological care? And could Nathan go to a psychologist? Or would said psych be in danger of having a license revoked for helping someone get past the implant? Jenny's dad sure as hell can go to a counselor to help him deal with the grief, and in fact it would be very healthy for him to do so. Why would Nathan be forbidden from doing the same? Or does the implant prevent psychotherapy from even working?

It takes a good story to bring up all these questions, even though it's tough to think about if you're a parent. (I'm betting we get at least 20 replies saying something like that; you want the over or the under?)

The reading was done by a professional, as was noted, so there's nothing really to complain about. I like how he pulled off the different characters without really changing his voice very much. Even the dead kid.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Darwinist on March 20, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
I'll take Listener's over.  Good questions, too, Listener.

I really liked the show this week.  The story had me from the first sentence and I thought it was excellent.  Well read, too.

I thought Tony did an excellent job hosting this week.  Love his enthusiasm in the introduction and the talk of his daughter in the outro.  I'm dealing with the same things with my sons as he is with his daughter.  It is a crazy world out there.  Loved the accent, too.  I'll check out SSS. 


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Void Munashii on March 20, 2009, 12:37:05 PM
  Like Listener, I pretty much figured the story right before the reveal, but it was still a good story with some chilling concepts (I'm all for headware, but I'm none too keen on the government fiddling with my thoughts; the media tries to do that already). I was a little dissapointed in the ending, and prefer the one that Listener suggested, but it was still quite a good story.

  A bit of Fridge Logic in the story though; wouldn't artificially intelligent holograms of your deceased loved ones make it that much harder to let them go? Pictures are one thing, three dimensional projections another, but a 3d image that can carry on a conversation with you? That just seems like it would be absolutely heartbreaking to endure, even moreso than Nathan's implant.

  I was surprised to hear Tony as a host, but not dissapointed, although I think my wife couldn't understand about half of what he said (she has asked me in the past when hearing me listening to the old SSS how I can tell what they were saying). He had a big pair of shoes to fill, and I think he did so admirably.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Corydon on March 20, 2009, 12:40:43 PM
Ooh, I got to "loss of a child" in the intro and decided to skip this one.  I can take a lot of darkness in my fiction, but that's where I wimp out.  I appreciate the mention in advance, though!


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Hatton on March 20, 2009, 01:04:56 PM
I don't tend to like preachy stories and this one falls into that category for me. 


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Poppydragon on March 20, 2009, 06:03:10 PM
Thought this was superb, a real hard edge to it but well worth the effort. Tony's hosting was a pleasant surprise, nice to hear a local accent  :) Enjoy wasn't the word for this one, but certainly worthwhile.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: deflective on March 20, 2009, 08:07:47 PM
solid episode, tho it's gonna take a while it to sound natural without SFEley.

i like the ending the way it is. i could almost imagine the doctors trying to redefine large life changes as an unintended feature of the procedure.

after last week, it sounds like the story selection process may be changing. one listener's request: could we get a little more 'positive' scifi? for a while now, most every story with advanced tech has dealt with dehumanization or oppression. they're still good stories but i like some fun speculation now and again without it turning into a cautionary tale where a gadget is taken to an extreme.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: FNH on March 21, 2009, 04:29:27 AM
I've harped on before about how Escape Pod should run more stories with space ships and aliens, but in response Mr Eley said that if they don't get submitted he couldn't select them.  So I guess the problem is they dont get submitted.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: FNH on March 21, 2009, 04:30:38 AM
The reading was done by a professional, as was noted,

Aw shucks  :-[  They dont even call me "professional" at work!


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: MacArthurBug on March 21, 2009, 09:34:35 AM
Very very good story and quite well read. The idea of dealing with someone elses emotions as penence for a crim is facination. I even liked the bits about the adware/malware additions to these implants. IT's frightening to think how close tech like this may be.
I'm a fairly regular listener of SSS and was suprised to hear Tony guest introing. No major complaintes about him- other then he ran on just a bit to long in the intro. Save the babble for the outro!


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: CGFxColONeill on March 21, 2009, 10:48:35 AM
I had mixed feelings about this story, I almost turned it off 4 or 5 times but I was just interested enough to stay with it and figure out where it was going (not really sure why tbh I was not really in the mood for a depressing story last night) but the ending made it a better  story which put me pretty much with deflective


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: cuddlebug on March 21, 2009, 10:50:21 AM
Great story, just imagine the possibilities. I love those stories that make me go on and on in my head coming up with all the things that could happen in the world described in the story .... so that will take up the rest of the weekend: contemplating memory implants and their social and emotional implications.

But I didn't mean to comment much on the story actually, maybe I'll do that later. I wanted to comment on using Tony as a host. Tony is incredibly funny and knows his stuff when it comes to SF, but I personally find it really hard to listen to him. It might be the accent or the rambling, I am not entirely sure, but that is also why I stopped downloading SSS entirely. I loved the stories and listened to them for a few months, always trying to skip straight to the main fiction, but when that became impossible I stopped subscribing to the podcast.

I am sorry for the criticism, and mean no offense to Tony at all, but I would prefer Steve as a host/narrator.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Zathras on March 21, 2009, 05:31:01 PM
Good story, excellent reading.  I thought the reveal was going to be that Nathan had killed Jenny.

I didn't like Tony's work, but that's personal preference.  I, too, felt the promo for SSS was too long.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: thomasowenm on March 21, 2009, 10:20:37 PM
I didn't really like the story, however I did not find it displeasing either.  I know that although I did not have a strong reaction to it, It will be one that will sit in the back of my mind.  The use of technology to disuade unlawful behavior, or promote an agenda is something that I will not readily forget, especially as tech speeds along its course. 

I can however say that listening to Tony was like nails on a chalkboard, very irritating.  We need Steve.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: elviiis on March 21, 2009, 10:39:25 PM
Loved the story.  I'm a pension consultant with small children at home. The story captured the daily grind between fretting about the clients and missing my children. 

And as an Actuary I also look for the cohorts every time I walk through a cemetery. 

The AI for the tombstones was a little creepy.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Talia on March 21, 2009, 11:55:40 PM
Enjoyed the story. A little frightening in the sense that I can actually see such a punishment being made legal if the technology were available.

Took me a while to get used to Tony's hosting style, but it grew on me and by the time the outro wrapped up I thought it rather keen. I sometimes have a LOT of trouble understanding accents, but that was not the case here, fortunately.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: 600south on March 22, 2009, 08:57:28 PM
Excellent! I'm a total sucker for cyberpunk/near-future/crime & punishment stories. This is one of my favorites along with Blink... Don't Blink.

And what a pleasant surprise to hear Tony Smith hosting the show. That man is my SF guru.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: wakela on March 23, 2009, 01:37:54 AM
Great story, great reading, great host.

This idea seemed completely plausible to me.  If the technology existed it would be a very short hop from people/politicians demanding that a murderer feel the grief he caused to a speeder feeling the grief he might cause.  The government usually does a pretty good job of punishing, so I would have been disappointed if he had defeated the chip.  The holograms in the cemetery were creepy, and I could totally see people buying them even though they just make it more painful to let go.  See Sematary, Pet.

I can't listen to Tony without smiling.  He's just so freakin enthusiastic, non-cynical, and open.  IMHO, I feel Steve can come off at times as being a little judgmental (sorry, Steve). 



Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: contra on March 23, 2009, 10:54:37 AM
My first part to this, is that I like the kiwi.  The kiwi fruit is good.  Infact I didn't know how much I liked kiwi fruit till this ep, and I went out and subscr.... or it breaks down there, you get the idea.


I enjoyed this weeks everything.  The story, the guest host and the reading.  All good.  Well done all concerned.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: ChiliFan on March 24, 2009, 05:31:00 AM
I was amazed to hear that the author Ian Creasey claims to live in "Yorkshire"! This is a county which was abolished in 1974 and replaced by several other counties, including North Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, and South Yorkshire, while the other counties didn't even include the name Yorkshire. To make matters, even more complicated some of those counties were later abolished and divided into new "Unitary Authorities". In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.



Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Corydon on March 24, 2009, 08:56:02 AM
I was amazed to hear that the author Ian Creasey claims to live in "Yorkshire"! This is a county which was abolished in 1974 and replaced by several other counties, including North Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, and South Yorkshire, while the other counties didn't even include the name Yorkshire. To make matters, even more complicated some of those counties were later abolished and divided into new "Unitary Authorities". In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.

Cripes, you often hear people refuse to read an author because they disagree with his politics.  But this is the most specific reason I've heard yet!


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Russell Nash on March 24, 2009, 12:12:25 PM
I was amazed to hear that the author Ian Creasey claims to live in "Yorkshire"! This is a county which was abolished in 1974 and replaced by several other counties, including North Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, and South Yorkshire, while the other counties didn't even include the name Yorkshire. To make matters, even more complicated some of those counties were later abolished and divided into new "Unitary Authorities". In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.

Cripes, you often hear people refuse to read an author because they disagree with his politics.  But this is the most specific reason I've heard yet!

That's being so anal that you better make sure to use lube.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Talia on March 24, 2009, 12:25:07 PM
In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.

And why on earth do you care if he holds old fashioned views or wishes it was 1974? These things offend you morally or something? Everyone must be in align with contemporary thinking or they are worthless?

heh


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: stePH on March 24, 2009, 02:44:12 PM
In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.

And why on earth do you care if he holds old fashioned views or wishes it was 1974? These things offend you morally or something? Everyone must be in align with contemporary thinking or they are worthless?

heh

Remember, Chilifan also thought the world was coming to an end because of this year's reduced Doctor Who and Torchwood schedules.  I've learned to disregard anything he/she/it says.



Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Talia on March 24, 2009, 03:54:56 PM
Yeah, that's totally ridiculous. It would take reducing the 'Heroes' and 'Dollhouse' schedules to end the world.

...:p


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: BethPeters on March 24, 2009, 08:36:03 PM
The story was sweet, if not a bit overkill.  The reading was fabulous.  The hosting was unbearable-- I mean, almost Clonepod bad.  Missing Steve's intro's/outro's back in the day is one thing, this was, yikes.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Ersatz Coffee on March 25, 2009, 02:38:08 AM
Interesting concept, slightly over-egged pudding; about a quarter of it could've been cut and it would have made its points more effectively. Well read though.

The SSS guy's presentation style was, er, interesting. Not sure I'd want to subject myself to it on a regular basis.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: DarkKnightJRK on March 25, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
Tony was...surprising, to say the least. Used to hearing Steve, so I wondered if I played the wrong 'cast for a sec. I adjusted quickly afterwards.

Overall, cool piece of near-future sci-fi. I can definately see something like this happening in my lifetime, and I'm not really sure if that's a good thing or not. The image of the holographic gravestones was particuarly haunting, too.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Listener on March 25, 2009, 09:57:56 AM
I've harped on before about how Escape Pod should run more stories with space ships and aliens, but in response Mr Eley said that if they don't get submitted he couldn't select them.  So I guess the problem is they dont get submitted.

Well, after someone buys "Belief", I'll submit it to EP as a reprint. It has spaceships and aliens.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Kaa on March 25, 2009, 12:06:33 PM
I enjoyed the story. I, like Zathras, thought that the main character was that one who had killed Jenny, and I was surprised that it went elsewhere.  This is a good thing. :)  Overall, I liked the story.

But I had one major complaint: I'm writing a story in which some of these same ideas figure prominently, and now people will think I'm copying this one. :)

As for the host....

<sigh>  You know, it's not that he's not Steve. And it's certainly not his accent, although that took a few seconds to get used to.  I just didn't like his hosting as much as I like Steve or Jeff DeRego. But I'm sure I'd get used to it if it were a recurring event.

But OH. MY. GOD.  Could the interminable ad for his podcast have possibly gone on any longer?  I was just about ready to skip Escape Pod altogether in favor of something that didn't irritate me to that level when he finally got to the story. The ad, I'm sorry to say, had the opposite effect on me than was intended: I doubt I'll listen to SSS because the ad irritated me so.

Stuff like that belongs at the end, so we can skip ahead to the next podcast with a single button press.  Very important if you listen while driving, as I do.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Glass on March 25, 2009, 03:23:12 PM
Stuff like that belongs at the end, so we can skip ahead to the next podcast with a single button press.  Very important if you listen while driving, as I do.

if you aren't careful they'll implant you for multimedia-usage-while driving!

I enjoyed the lead-up to the main plot catch, and the questionable means considered of ridding said catch from one's cranium, but found serious holes elsewhere.

Jenny's father seemed to be a walking PSA for speed regulations- well, ok, if he would agree to have his memories shared he must feel pretty much along the government line anyway.

All the same, my suspension-of-disbelief was, er, suspended when the conflict between the two men at the gravesite carried on.
Allowing that jenny's father was selected, or volunteered, to have fragments of his daughter scattered like ashes to the cerebrally implanted winds, he should have had some government training on how to deal with potential approaches from people with these implanted memories.  Either they don't have the tech to implant fake memories without the brain realizing it - i.e. a fully fictionalized jenny is killed or a simple names-changed-for-privacy version of the story is implanted- or they opted to not use fake memories strictly so that there would be a real person somewhere out there you could meet and feel incredibly guilty and ashamed about having met.  Either way, the odds of someone along the line meeting the memory host for their implant had to be incredibly high, so in true bureaucratic fashion there should have been a training seminar somewhere.  i can excuse a grieving father at his daughter's grave [on her birthday with a dancing interactive holographic representation no less] of many things, but it briefly cut off the flow of the story universe when he didn't, say, angrily squash a folded business card for a support group of jenny-killers into main character guy's temple before banishing him.

Isn't driving obnoxiously slowly also against the law?

Doesn't main character have something akin to a parole officer to talk to?  I wouldn't need to be in-depth or lengthy or even useful to the main character, but that the option was left unexplored while black-market hackers were leaves me questioning the morality of a character who is otherwise made out to be your usual generally-good-with-heroic-faults everyman.

In a society where the technology and capacity to install mental implants reprimanding speeders exists, why can't they just install context-sensitive speed limiters in all the country's cars?


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: kenryan on March 26, 2009, 06:32:10 AM
Not a bad story, a little heavy-handed.  The conflict between the protagonist and the father was unsatisfying, it didn't seem to add to how the story came out.

Tony's voice at the intro was somewhat a shock, and a little hard to listen to.  The biggest thing that got me though was when he first started talking my initial reaction was "Guest-hosted by the Wiggles???".  Probably not a typical reaction...not sure if I want to know what it says about me!


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: ChiliFan on March 30, 2009, 06:06:26 AM
In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.

And why on earth do you care if he holds old fashioned views or wishes it was 1974? These things offend you morally or something? Everyone must be in align with contemporary thinking or they are worthless?

heh

You're right when you assume that these things offend me morally. I don't just want to know where he really lives, I want him to admit it on his website as well. In my experience, people who believe in counties which have been abolished are also against metric measurements, pro sex discrimination and anti EU membership, as well as some other issues.

As for me, I'm from London, which has been a county since 1889 and has had its current boundaries since 1965. Unfortunately, some of its territory gained in 1965 is under threat from the Post Office, who claim that about a third of London still belongs to other counties, as well as some fanatics who believe in "historical counties". I think the biggest threat is from Middlesex fanatics, who claim about 25% of London, as well as still running a Middlesex County Fair. I'm thinking of writing a story based at their fair.



Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Loz on March 30, 2009, 02:30:15 PM
Having lived in parts of London which were officially postcoded for outside London in their time can I be the first one to ask you to kindly stop talking pish?

Despite valiant attempts by the reader this story failed to really engage me, the central conceit was implausible for a number of reasons, not least because it seemed likely to potentially put the life of his wife and child at risk, but then the AI holograms of dead people at the gravesite (and why the gravesite, why not at home where it would be easier for the bereaved parent to brood and build up his rage at the world until he unleashes it in some form of psychopathic fury?) this seemed to be some strange world designed to drive it's inhabitants insane even quicker than this world does to Chilifan.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Talia on March 30, 2009, 03:29:24 PM
In my experience, people who claim to live in Yorkshire or other abolished counties such as Sussex or Middlesex, usually do so because of holding old fashioned views of the World, or in other words that they wish it really was 1974 or earlier on. I'd like to know where this author *really* lives, otherwise I don't think I'll be listening to or reading any more of his stories.

And why on earth do you care if he holds old fashioned views or wishes it was 1974? These things offend you morally or something? Everyone must be in align with contemporary thinking or they are worthless?

heh

You're right when you assume that these things offend me morally. I don't just want to know where he really lives, I want him to admit it on his website as well. In my experience, people who believe in counties which have been abolished are also against metric measurements, pro sex discrimination and anti EU membership, as well as some other issues.

As for me, I'm from London, which has been a county since 1889 and has had its current boundaries since 1965. Unfortunately, some of its territory gained in 1965 is under threat from the Post Office, who claim that about a third of London still belongs to other counties, as well as some fanatics who believe in "historical counties". I think the biggest threat is from Middlesex fanatics, who claim about 25% of London, as well as still running a Middlesex County Fair. I'm thinking of writing a story based at their fair.



The way you talk you make it sound as though England were on the brink of an internal civil war. Darn those filthy Middlesex fanatics! Someone must stop the Middlesex Threat before its Too Late! :p


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Bdoomed on March 30, 2009, 05:47:33 PM
you'd think memory implants wouldnt be so prominent, it seemed to make the character more dangerous on the road rather than less...


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Loz on March 31, 2009, 02:55:11 PM

The way you talk you make it sound as though England were on the brink of an internal civil war. Darn those filthy Middlesex fanatics! Someone must stop the Middlesex Threat before its Too Late! :p

It's too late, they look like us now!


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Wilson Fowlie on April 02, 2009, 04:15:54 PM
Complaining that someone says they live in Yorkshire is like complaining that someone says they live in New England, or The Maritimes, or the Eastern Seaboard or the South Coast.  None of them are political entities, but they are still recognized geographic regions.

Chilifan should stop trolling around here and devote his energies and money to suing organizations like www.yorkshire.com (http://www.yorkshire.com) - imagine, an entire website devoted to a county that doesn't exist!

Well, after someone buys "Belief", I'll submit it to EP as a reprint. It has spaceships and aliens.

Listener, what will you do if everyone defies "Belief"?  Let EP run it as an 'Escape Pod Original'?


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Listener on April 03, 2009, 11:52:28 AM

Well, after someone buys "Belief", I'll submit it to EP as a reprint. It has spaceships and aliens.

Listener, what will you do if everyone defies "Belief"?  Let EP run it as an 'Escape Pod Original'?

Well, I have to start submitting it places before people can defy it. *grin*

Because of the rights that are purchased by the EA group when they buy a story, from what I have been told it behooves writers to attempt to sell the stories elsewhere first, then sell them to EA as reprints. I'm not really sure what I'd do; I'm hoping that, when I finally finish revising it, a journal purchases it, but if not, I have no problem running it as an EA Original if they'll buy it.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: ChiliFan on April 08, 2009, 04:05:39 AM
I never knew until now that New England used to be a political entity! Fortunately, everyone realises that it's not now a political entity, but I only found out about two years ago which states are considered to be part of it. According to Wikipedia, it used to include New York, East Jersey, and West Jersey, but I read as well as heard that nowadays it's only considered to be all states from Maine up to the New York state border. When asked where they're from though, I think that people usually say which state or a well known town or city within a state.

The case with Yorkshire is different, because people are actively defying political changes made as from 1974. Unfortunately, Yorkshire still has a cricket team, so I think this should be abolished or at least banned from competition ASAP. After careful consideration, I think the general term should be northeast England. This takes account of the fact that Yorkshire has been abolished, because previously northeast England was the corner of England to the north of Middlesborough, including Newcastle on Tyne, Durham, and Northumbria. 

Complaining that someone says they live in Yorkshire is like complaining that someone says they live in New England, or The Maritimes, or the Eastern Seaboard or the South Coast.  None of them are political entities, but they are still recognized geographic regions.

Chilifan should stop trolling around here and devote his energies and money to suing organizations like www.yorkshire.com (http://www.yorkshire.com) - imagine, an entire website devoted to a county that doesn't exist!

Well, after someone buys "Belief", I'll submit it to EP as a reprint. It has spaceships and aliens.

Listener, what will you do if everyone defies "Belief"?  Let EP run it as an 'Escape Pod Original'?


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: JoeFitz on May 12, 2009, 07:53:29 PM
The story was interesting enough with the only particular jarring portion being the confrontation at the grave site. The exposition was important to the story, but I feel a better way might have been to split the exposition from the confrontation.

I did not find it surprising at all that such ridiculous punishment was imposed out-of-proportion to the infraction. Twelve months of psychological torture for speeding did seem a little too obvious of a slippery slope argument and I would have preferred something a little more proportionate like the drink driver example. I realize that it would be a lot more difficult to sympathize with the main character if they had been convicted of DWI/DUI.

I took the punishment in this story as a metaphor for incarceration: a blunt instrument that makes people imposing the sentence, and lots of other people, feel better. I also found in interesting that it was a "voluntary" treatment. The implication seems to be that the future society would not impose such a sentence otherwise.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Paranatural on May 18, 2009, 01:12:55 PM
I really didn't expect the ending. It was good, and something I figured out a bit ago and have been trying to implement into my own life. I guess I saw it as a single good point to the giant evil idea of the implant, period.

I'm also kinda surprised none of the other implant people would have shown up.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Unblinking on May 10, 2010, 12:15:21 PM
Not a bad story, it really had me going emotionally which is a huge plus. 

I wasn't sure I believed the plausibility of the AI ghost at the gravesite, particularly the fact that it is capable of being scared of strangers, and upset at its inability to hug the father.  That's just cruel to make a construct which desires human contact and then put it in a form that is incapable of human contact.  When the kid kept trying to hug the father I thought it was touching at first, but then found the bad design of the ghost rather distracting.

I did find it odd that they didn't just install a governor on his car to cap the upper speed.  Governers exist already these days, although I suppose that wouldn't work if he shared cars with someone else.

My favorite part of it was that the memory implants had an unexpected side effect--encouraging him to get to know his own son better.  At the beginning I found it very sad that this artificial memory was clearly taking priority of his actual son.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Scattercat on May 10, 2010, 01:53:49 PM
I did find it odd that they didn't just install a governor on his car to cap the upper speed.  Governers exist already these days, although I suppose that wouldn't work if he shared cars with someone else.

More to the point, he almost has several accidents because he's so distracted by the upsetting memories.  Strong emotions are one of the biggest causes of inattention and error around...


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: CryptoMe on May 28, 2010, 09:41:08 AM
I did find it odd that they didn't just install a governor on his car to cap the upper speed.  Governers exist already these days, although I suppose that wouldn't work if he shared cars with someone else.

My understanding is that you can get Governors that respond differently to each key for the car. That way, parents can set different speed caps for their teenagers than they do for themselves.


Title: Re: EP191: This Is How It Feels
Post by: Unblinking on June 02, 2010, 08:43:29 AM
My understanding is that you can get Governors that respond differently to each key for the car. That way, parents can set different speed caps for their teenagers than they do for themselves.

That makes sense, hadn't heard of that technology.