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 on: August 10, 2018, 08:57:24 PM 
Started by Ocicat - Last post by jrderego
I like Last Podcast on the Left, The Dollop, Kaijucast, and Joe Rogan's Podcast. Sometimes Cracked podcast, The First World War Podcast, and Comedy Button.

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 on: August 10, 2018, 08:56:11 PM 
Started by Russell Nash - Last post by jrderego
Adjustment Day - Chuck Pahlaniuk. One of the best dystopian novels I've ever read.

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 on: August 10, 2018, 08:37:57 PM 
Started by sherbang - Last post by SomebodyElse
The novella Binti also features living starships bred from fish.

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 on: August 10, 2018, 08:36:30 PM 
Started by SomebodyElse - Last post by SomebodyElse
Yes! Thank you so much!

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 on: August 10, 2018, 05:13:02 PM 
Started by Ocicat - Last post by raroyce
Amazing writing. Beautifully graphic. Stunning character development and imagery.
Is this a political story? Not in my mind, even with the references to BLM. Of course these murderers, like all murderers, would try to justify their murderous behavior by claiming some right to enact vengeance. That's the way of all those who act with evil intent, seduced and corrupted by power. But there is no justification for murder, for any reason. That's the reason to stand firm against any and all systems that try to do so, state sanctioned or otherwise. These are not avenging angels, and I like that the author doesn't try to make them seem so.
This is just plain amazing writing. I won't soon forget it.

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 on: August 10, 2018, 10:16:05 AM 
Started by julkaz - Last post by julkaz
That's a great description of Aickman. Now that you mention it, his characters are often after sex or romance in their own repressed ways. I wonder if this might work with Seattle passive-aggression instead of British stuffiness. Maybe worth a try!

Just thought of a good counterexample for the stories I mentioned: "The Moraine," where the story could have left out the supernatural altogether and been a pretty suspenseful narrative about a bickering couple getting lost. So adding a foil seems like a good idea.

Thanks for your thoughts!

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 on: August 10, 2018, 06:04:37 AM 
Started by julkaz - Last post by Sgarre1
Some ideas -

"Small" actions by the protagonist that, presuming they're oblivious to the actual threat (or it's so abstract as to be unable to be determined specifically by the protagonist or perhaps even the reader), make "logical" sense but are essentially the "wrong way to go."  Ego-driven main characters who operate as if they are the only ones in the world are easy to write like this, although coming up with the small, logical actions may prove difficult.

Also along those lines, the character might "think" they've determined what the threat is and act accordingly, but be absolutely wrong or have misread or underestimated it.

Of course, the alternative to the first option is the classic "suddenly becoming aware that they're in deep shit and freaking out", with the proviso here being that "freaking out" may just mean automatically resorting to flight (which may be impossible) or fight (which may also be impossible) - but ping-ponging between these two can move a narrative forward - or just breaking down in the face of the threat and waiting for it to reveal itself.

James characters tend to have some intellectual goal that drags them forward, Campbell's tend to be driven by their character/psychological faults and Aickman's...well, it's the same as Campbell's but usually buried under a thick skin of manners and cultural clutter. In fact, that's another exploitable element, one at which Aickman was a master - the accrual of small events signifying that something is wrong but contrasted against a raft of cultural and societal niceties that are slowly unwrapped from the character. Stories like this *tend* to be British (simply because the Brits really developed an enormous cultural carpet bag of the stuff) but there's no reason it couldn't work with other cultures, with enough planning (which is one of the reasons why the "fish out of water" set-up is so popular)

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 on: August 10, 2018, 05:58:21 AM 
Started by Ocicat - Last post by Moritz
Fiction:
- The Magnus Archives (British horror shorts with a bit of metaplot)
- Welcome to Nightvale (disguised as a local radio station - comedic/absurd weirdness with a pinch of horror)

Non-Fiction:
- Deutschland Funk: Eine Welt (German NPR "one world" - news about other countries)
- Luftpost ("air mail" - a German student interviews people about their travels. includes an episode with me Wink )
- Cracked Podcast (comedy writers talking about weird history, media, and society)
- Freakonomics Radio (a journalist and an economist try to explain stuff; based on a book series by the same guys)
- Writing Excuses (four successful authors from different genre styles discuss how to write)
- Oh No Ross and Carrie (Ross and Carrie join cults or try out paranormal stuff and report on it)
- New Books in Anthropology (authors are interviewed about their research - easier to digest than reading those books)

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 on: August 10, 2018, 03:55:45 AM 
Started by Bdoomed - Last post by Moritz
The narrator did a terrific job, but the story's tone and topic wasn't for me.

I mean "Think of it like the best macaroni and cheese you’ve ever had." - I've never had macaroni and cheese...

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 on: August 10, 2018, 03:53:15 AM 
Started by Ocicat - Last post by Moritz
I generally liked the premise, but it became a bit stale in the second half of the story because of the many repetitions.

I'll leave the political discussions to those living in the US (I'm an American born/raised/living in Europe, so I have a rather detached point of view when it comes to such issues). I didn't quite like that the end comments by Khalida went in the direction of "see you in the forum for a discussion", because that sounded like Escape Artists wanted to get political/controversial on purposes. Now, I don't think it's wrong to include a political story. I also think this story can certainly be discussed here. But to tell us to have a discussion sounded a little bit patronising. I believe the story will generate a discussion on itself.

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