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Reply #20 on: July 04, 2008, 11:48:45 PM
Yeah!  Myth and fable in a modern setting!  This is what I want in a fantasy. 

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Reply #21 on: July 05, 2008, 12:02:23 AM
I had no problem with the "coda," as the frame had been set up within the story, so it needed a resolution as much as the story itself did.

Both these things were my one problem with the story.  I'm developing a strong dislike of the conversational style of "talking to the reader".  (Sorry, there's probably a technical term for this but I'm not sure what keywords I could use to Google it.)  It was only mildly irritating in this story but it was the standout thing that really annoyed me about "Barrens Dance".  But in "Barrens Dance" it at least had a strong justification in the reveal of the narrator, whereas this time it seemed to be worse than superfluous because it forced the tacked-on coda.

Against all the evidence of the forum film polls: The Princess Bride could be better.  If the irritating framing segments with Peter Falk were dropped and they played it straight.  You can't have your ironic detachment and eat it.  No you can't, young man, now finish your soup and go to bed.

Other than that cavil, this story was brilliant.  I loved the technical details of the cheats, the dismay of the trapped god, and the timeless cadence of the telling.  (And the reading was excellent.)  I could tolerate more narrator-centric stories if they're this good.



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Reply #22 on: July 05, 2008, 04:18:00 PM
I also really loved the story- as mentioned above, it was well written, and it flowed really well. I warmed up to the narrator very quickly (also to the reader, btw - he did a really excellent job) and was interested and delighted throughout.

I'm a bit on the fence on the coda. On the one hand, I did appreciate it. On the other hand, it felt really appendix-like; the break between the story and the coda was very apparent. I think it would have been a worse story without it, but I'm not sure it couldn't have been handled a bit smoother.



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Reply #23 on: July 05, 2008, 06:45:35 PM
Wow, what an amazing story. Very skilled story-telling and I usually don’t tend to check out other works by the authors, I will certainly check out more from Hilary Moon Murphy now.

It almost seemed too perfect to be true, as if Hilary made sure she ticked every single box on the “What to bear in mind when writing a short story” – house rules for fiction writers.

Let me put it this way, if I ever get down to writing prose and putting all those ideas in my notebook into actual stories, I will use this one as a perfect example and hope the genius will sift through into my own writing.

*More like this, please.*

And I agree on the excellent reading, btw. I think Rajan's voice talent should be used a lot more often on the casts.



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Reply #24 on: July 07, 2008, 08:27:47 AM
Let me add my voice to the chorus: This was a really good story.  Mostly it just had a really nice feel.  Fable, yet matter of fact.  The actual solutions to the first child's dilemma was pretty predictable - at least to me.  But then I actually use these kinds of contracts as a recurring theme in the roleplaying games I run, so I've probably thought about it a lot more than most.  Yet somehow I didn't see the solution to the woman's contract until we got there, and that was simple as well.  Bravo!

The coda didn't bug me, but I don't feel it added much, either. 

So ya, great story.  It's not my favorite PC ep, that's still Run of the Fiery Horse.  Obviously I like H.M.M.'s work, and need to track down more of it.



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Reply #25 on: July 07, 2008, 08:48:38 PM
OK, I need some help.  Where have I heard other Hilary Moon Murphy stories.  Obviously this story and Run of the Fiery Horse, But I know I've heard another story by her and been to her website before, but I can't remember where.  I thought it was EP but i went through them and didn't find her.  Is anyone aware of other stories she has had podcasted in the last couple of years?  Perhaps Ms. Murphy herself is watching the forum?

Hello there.

Since this post was addressed to me, I figure that I had better log in and answer it.  I don't have any other stories that are in podcast format as yet, though I've been thinking of submitting more of my stuff to Rachel since I love Podcastle's broadcasts.

Perhaps you heard me reading at a SF convention?

Oh, and I have to agree with everyone that the narrator of this story was lovely.  Please bring him back to do other stories!  He was wonderful!

Thanks to everyone for their kind comments on my story.

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Reply #26 on: July 07, 2008, 09:10:40 PM
Where have I heard other Hilary Moon Murphy stories.  Obviously this story and Run of the Fiery Horse, But I know I've heard another story by her and been to her website before, but I can't remember where.
I don't have any other stories that are in podcast format as yet, though I've been thinking of submitting more of my stuff to Rachel since I love Podcastle's broadcasts.

Hmmm.  Maybe I've just recognized your name from these forums, but I know I've been to your website previously for some reason.

Please do submit more stuff to Podcastle.  You're 2 for 2 in my book.

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Reply #27 on: July 07, 2008, 09:16:13 PM
Hmmm.  Maybe I've just recognized your name from these forums, but I know I've been to your website previously for some reason.

Please do submit more stuff to Podcastle.  You're 2 for 2 in my book.

Okay, I will.  By the way, thank you again for your kind comments.  It is hard as a writer (and a pretty obscure one at that) to find validation at times.  Thank you so much -- all of you -- for giving me a little encouragement at a time when I really needed it.

It's also lovely sharing a table of contents with so many of my own favorite writers.

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Reply #28 on: July 07, 2008, 11:21:10 PM
****WARNING: This post has nothing to do with the story*****

Okay, maybe since I've already praised this story I can reveal that the first image that comes to mind when I read the title is:

The Cheat from Homestarrunner.com

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Reply #29 on: July 11, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
OK, so I've just finished listening to all the PC stories back-to-back, and I'm caught up. And this is far and away the best story so far. I can't think of a single thing I'd change.

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Reply #30 on: July 29, 2008, 04:18:02 AM

I liked the framing on this one; I thought it added to the the traditional tone of the story, which was a big reason that it worked for me.  One of the things I like best is a classic fantasy built from modern parts -- like Run of the Firey Horse.  Hillary Moon Murphy does it again!!

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Reply #31 on: August 03, 2008, 07:00:50 PM
Excellent story.  I loved the context that the protagonist was forced to work in, and the way he manipulated things was fantastic!



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Reply #32 on: August 19, 2008, 06:59:17 PM
I loved this story. Leave it to a lawyer to figure out a way around a god!

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Reply #33 on: September 01, 2008, 10:52:08 PM
Haha! This story greatly reminded me of old Coyote stories I heard growing up. A well-crafted and satisfying story.

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Reply #34 on: September 20, 2008, 12:48:14 PM
WOW!  Great story!  I've listened to most of the PC stories, and this is my favorite so far.  I missed it the first time, went back to listen, and I'm glad I did.

The "storytelling" feel was great, perfect for the content.  The tale itself is excellent and highly creative (was the part about the rice, etc. completely made up or based on some myth?).

I sighed when the story ended.  ;D

P.S. And I loved the reading as well, great choice.



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Reply #35 on: November 18, 2009, 09:15:32 PM
I didn't expect to like this one--I'm not sure why, honestly, I guess I should consider that question.  But I did like it.  I like how the god himself became bound to spend all his time running errands to support his own edicts.  I saw the first solution coming, but hadn't had any idea about the second one.

And the reading was excellent as well.  I've been looking forward to reading Rajan's story in Shadows of the Emerald City, which is next on my to-read list, so it's cool to come across him on Podcastle at such a fortuitous time.  :)