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Reply #20 on: July 24, 2008, 04:51:20 AM
... and the recent XBox 360 game Overlord, which, as everyone's already said, turned things on their head by showing things from the evil race's point of view.

Dungeon Keeper did that eleven years ago.

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Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 06:01:46 AM
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I'm glad to see that here at Podcastle, not that there haven't been any fun stories, but to me this story was fun just for the sake of being fun.

I agree.

As an editor, I've found that it's hard to find stories that are both lots of fun, and quality. In my opinion, Jim C. Hines is an exemplar of someone who straddles those qualities.

He sort of reminds me of John Scalzi, except working with fantasy tropes instead of military SF.

(For the record, we're always on the lookout for stories that are quality and pure fun. We've got a few in stock, including one from the Chicks in Chainmail series by Writers of the Future judge K. D. Wentworth, a piece by Esther Friesner, and a really disarming Peter Beagle fable. The Friesner and the Wentworth are also high fantasy, so they hit the trifecta of the things we don't see as much of in terms of quality as we'd like to. The Friesner stars an elf and a sorcerer. The Wentworth stars a barbarian. In conversation with the other editors, I've been calling the Wentworth our chainmail bikini story, though of course it's got a twist.

I've also been looking for some large-scale adventures that play out on an epic scope like "Osteomancer's Son." We've got a Tim Pratt adventure scheduled for August which I think is going to rock some serious socks, and in September we'll be running a fantasy/mystery/action-adventure by Richard Parks set in medieval Japan.
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Reply #22 on: July 24, 2008, 01:06:17 PM
In conversation with the other editors, I've been calling the Wentworth our chainmail bikini story,

Not surprising for a story that's part of some series called "Chicks in Chainmail"  ;D

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Reply #23 on: July 24, 2008, 03:54:11 PM

In conversation with the other editors, I've been calling the Wentworth our chainmail bikini story, though of course it's got a twist.


A chainmail bikini... with a twist?  That sounds especially uncomfortable...



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Reply #24 on: July 24, 2008, 04:13:33 PM

In conversation with the other editors, I've been calling the Wentworth our chainmail bikini story, though of course it's got a twist.


A chainmail bikini... with a twist?  That sounds especially uncomfortable...

Actually, I would think--

No.  Not going to go there.  Not at all.

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Reply #25 on: July 24, 2008, 04:36:17 PM
I have been a subscriber of all 3 podcasts since the beginning and this is the first one time I have posted a comment.  I really enjoyed this story because of the way Jonathan was portrayed.  Instead of the classic noble quest point of view, I really enjoyed the how his pomposity was displayed.  It shows how there are always two sides to every story.



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Reply #26 on: July 24, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
I think I've been reading too many D&D parodies recently because this story kept irritating me.  Rather than see it as a standard High Fantasy setting I kept thinking that the whole throne-stealing/wood-elves/quest/goblin-raid scenario sounded like the inspiration-free scribbling of a teenage D&Der.  This may have been intentional but it made it really difficult for me to suspend disbelief and engage with the story, which I prefer to do even with the fun stuff.

I also couldn't help comparing it unfavourably to Goblins.

Great reading, though.



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Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 10:30:07 PM
I liked this story.

Technically, it was well constructed and well executed.

The story plot itself was simple, as a short story's ought to be.

The voice of Christiana Ellis is always welcome, especially in a fun story.

Three thumbs up!



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Reply #28 on: July 25, 2008, 01:10:13 AM
Great story, and a great reading by Christiana. I've only heard her read one other piece (Mary Hobson's God Juice over on Escape Pod) and I've loved both performances.

This story does a great job of examining the consequences of fantasy tropes. I'll have to look for his work. Thanks to Podcastle for introducing me to his work.



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Reply #29 on: July 25, 2008, 01:37:22 AM
... and the recent XBox 360 game Overlord, which, as everyone's already said, turned things on their head by showing things from the evil race's point of view.

Dungeon Keeper did that eleven years ago.

Fascinating.  Unsurprising that someone did it before, but still really cool.

And Robney, that point makes me want to run a campaign in D and D of all Goblin Raiders.



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Reply #30 on: July 25, 2008, 08:35:32 AM
I have nothing new to add to the general chorus of approval.  I just want to say that I've never enjoyed a Podcastle story quite as much as this one.  (Not that all the others were ponderous, solemn affairs.)

I'm relieved I wasn't the only person to think of Dungeon Keeper.  I'm relieved I wasn't the only person to remember Dungeon Keeper.

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Reply #31 on: July 25, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
I also cheer in this chorus of approval! What a great story and very well read by Christiana Ellis. Her voice gave the main character a nice extra level, with her down-to-earth moping about diapers and being all sarcastic about the prince's quest.

As VewDew already posted: "It shows how there are always two sides to every story."
That's what great about this story. I always love the 'other' point of view in a story, because it points out what you normally take for granted in a story. Like in this story, it plays with the whole quest thing and the pompous prince and that makes this story great fun!

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Reply #32 on: July 25, 2008, 02:47:08 PM
I'm relieved I wasn't the only person to think of Dungeon Keeper.  I'm relieved I wasn't the only person to remember Dungeon Keeper.

  I loved those games, espeically the second one. I could never beat the first one because it always crashed on the last level :( .

  I was really disappointed when the third one was never made, but with Fallout 3 coming out I guess there is always hope.

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Reply #33 on: July 26, 2008, 12:30:13 AM
I'm relieved I wasn't the only person to think of Dungeon Keeper.  I'm relieved I wasn't the only person to remember Dungeon Keeper.

  I loved those games, espeically the second one. I could never beat the first one because it always crashed on the last level :( .

  I was really disappointed when the third one was never made, but with Fallout 3 coming out I guess there is always hope.

I never played Dungeon Keeper, but it came out at a time when my thumb was firmly on the pulse of PC gaming, so I still remember it.

I did play the hell out of its predecessor Magic Carpet, and am currently revisiting that game in its Playstation port.

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Reply #34 on: July 26, 2008, 12:50:35 AM
Good story; great reading.

I especially liked the practical use for the magic curse and the elf's reaction.



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Reply #35 on: July 26, 2008, 04:21:28 AM
Did anyone else think that the story had a distinctly anti-war message?  It's not that the Goblins are uniformly righteous and misunderstood.  In fact, Goblin society at large seems just as senseless and bull-headed as humanity.  But the bloodshed between the humans/elves and the goblins is nonetheless pointless.  The looming war between Jonathan and Wendell seems like it would be particularly catastrophic, and the conclusion the Goblin protagonist effected seems like the best of all possible outcomes.



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Reply #36 on: July 26, 2008, 02:33:20 PM
I loved this one

that is all. :)

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Reply #37 on: July 28, 2008, 09:29:52 PM
Ahhh, Dungeon Keeper.  That was one of the best presented games of all time.  I still remember the wonderful intro, the snarky narration, the obnoxiuos horned reaper.  I can see how it plays in this story.  This makes me want to fire it up again and kick some goody two-shoe adventurer ass.

This story tickles the cynic in me.  I love the practicality of the protagonist.  She's pragamatic to the hilt and doesn't give a damn about ideals, chivalry, or even piracy.  And the author makes her clever to boot.  She sees the situations sideways so she takes advantage of the unobvious.  The oblivious knight didn't have chance against the ultimate weapon.

I don't see this as an anti-war story.  The goblin nanny could care about the war, she just sees her own personal problems.  If the war helped her, she support it.  In this case, it gets in the way of a good nap.  I know the feeling, I'd rather have a good night sleep these days than anything else.



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Reply #38 on: July 28, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
... and the recent XBox 360 game Overlord, which, as everyone's already said, turned things on their head by showing things from the evil race's point of view.

Dungeon Keeper did that eleven years ago.

... and how could I overlook the obvious ... playing the "orc" campaign in any of the Warcraft games (I cut my RTS teeth on Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness.)

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Reply #39 on: July 28, 2008, 11:54:40 PM
Tide of Darkness...who could forget the hammer-wielding, Al Pacino-quoting Orcs?  Good times.