Author Topic: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places  (Read 9539 times)

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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2010, 03:49:06 PM »
Ok, the story wasn't bad, but I have to say this: Beginning the cast by describing it as a YA story and encouraging parents to let their kids listen, and then ending the cast with an outro filled with drug references and F-bombs? Just a hint of Fail, there.
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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2010, 07:20:16 PM »
I didn't enjoy this one. The characters were unsympathetic, which is fine - lots of stories can succeed with unsympathetic characters - but they're unsympathetic in really uninteresting and cliche ways. The dialogue didn't really ring true for me, either - it sounded more like an adult putting on teen speak than like an actual teenager speaking.

I guess the whole thing was meant to be a fun, campy romp, but I just wasn't drawn into the fun. I guess the whole territory of high school mean girls is just too overdone for my taste - and the fantasy twists of the story weren't exactly gripping, either.

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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2010, 04:11:27 PM »
Fun, but slight; the best part, as someone said above, was Hunt standing up for Rider, which I didn't see coming.  (And the line about her week as an emu made me grin.)  I expected more magic in it, though, what with 1313 Strega and "the best junior high" and the group "going places," and so the ultimate simplicity of the story disappointed me a bit.  Enjoyed listening to it, but in the end it isn't a keeper.

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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2010, 03:08:05 AM »
When a character is painted with as broad a brush as Rider, the story ends either with her getting "just desserts," if the author is feeling put-upon and vindictive, or "learning a lesson" if we're going for uplifting.  I had so little sympathy for anyone in this story that I just couldn't care which one it would end up being.  Most of the schoolchildren needed a swift kick in the rear and the aunt should probably be arrested for what is apparently a habit of teaching ham-handed lessons through humiliation and mockery of children.  (Srsly, she casts spells on other people's kids when she doesn't like their attitude?  What kind of crazy crap is that?)

I think I would have preferred to read this one.  It would have gone much more quickly and I wouldn't have had to strain to keep straight who all the characters were.  As it was, my attention kept wandering.

It's not that it was particularly bad, mind; I just don't really get the point of it.  Maybe I'm too far removed from anything like the experiences in the story to appreciate it, but it feels like anyone who would read through to the moral lesson at the end is someone who already knows that particular lesson, whereas someone who actually IS as self-absorbed as Rider would learn nothing from the experience except "Don't be a dick where Auntie can see."  You can't teach humility through punishment.  You can only teach someone to pretend to be humble whenever the instrument of punishment is at hand.
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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 11:13:44 AM »
Oh, listening to this was fun, though like everyone mentioned, at first I disliked Rider. I wondered why the heck the aunt pandered to her and was about to write her off when she started making warnings about gratitude. That's when I realized, "Ohhh...she has something up her sleeve." And that's when I really started having fun with the story. Having grown up with kiddie Bible stories, I'm used to hearing morals and I liked this one. The ending to me fit pretty well.

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Edit: I just now listened to the outro. I happen to be listening to it aloud on my laptop and when I heard my name, I was like "Holy CRAP! I WROTE THAT?!" I had to go back to the forum and sure enough I did, asterisk and all. My hubby had to come from the other room and wondered why I was on the ground laughing. Thanks...he nows finds my comment 'completely hot'.  :D
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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 11:06:05 AM »
Caricature of a self-absorbed teenager gets the karmic repercussions of her actions through a little creative witchcraft, and in the end learns the value of friendship.  Everyone laughs.  Que the freeze-frame.  Roll credits.  Blah!  Huge miss for me!

As others have said the characters are unsympathetic, probably because they are completely one-dimensional cartoon cut-outs.  Jocks are morons.  Popular girls are bitchy.  Cheerleaders are apparently willing to make-out with anyone at the drop of a hat.  Granted, I was one of those all-AP-classes nerds in High School, and looking back I realize how completely oblivious I was to various socio-political dramas that my classmates had, but I just don't see what the fuss is about.  Nobody in my group of friends gave two beans about who was the most popular girl/guy in class.  Who spends so much energy on something so petty that only lasts for 4 years?  Why is it okay to make up all these cliques and stereotypes in high school, when in any other context it would be considered grounds for a class-action lawsuit?  Why jockey for the top of the hierarchy when the only ones that even cared are the ones you are jockeying with?

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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2010, 08:29:19 AM »
Who spends so much energy on something so petty that only lasts for 4 years?  

A lot of people, unfortunately.  Every single high school based nostalgia movie does not help.  "These are the best years of your life," the saying goes.  Well, I'm glad that those did NOT turn out to be the best years of my life, because that would've set the bar pretty damned low.

Why is it okay to make up all these cliques and stereotypes in high school, when in any other context it would be considered grounds for a class-action lawsuit? 

Maybe high schoolers don't have quality lawyers?  Maybe because the ones on the top of the class hierarchy are minors, so there's probably not much that can done against them legally.  It's a very good question, honestly.  I hadn't realized how far I'd separated myself from that world until recently when I've heard several nears stories talking about extreme bullying of gay kids in high schools.  I have several gay friends, and their sexual orientation is a complete non-issue with everyone I'm around, so I'd taken for granted that this was generally the case.

Why jockey for the top of the hierarchy when the only ones that even cared are the ones you are jockeying with?

It's a self-perpetuating system, because the other ones jockeying for position have to show some respect for you when you're on top, or their power will be meaningless when they are top.  I think there's a "mob mentality" at work too--lots and lots of high schoolers think the clique systems suck, but no one feels like they can change it.  If you do stand against it, you become an outsider and are torn down that much more.  I'm honestly not sure how this could be changed--I'm not saying it couldn't be, but I have no idea how.

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Re: PC108: The Goats Are Going Places
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2011, 02:53:42 PM »
Check out Lightning Eclipse from the Planet of the Goats

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