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PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« on: April 08, 2009, 08:48:34 AM »
PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters

by John Brown.
Read by Wilson Fowlie.

He looked at their leg tattoos. Mohawk. One of the Iroquois tribes. Well, he couldn’t kill them then.

Not that he’d want to. They were, after all, just boys. Still, Indian boys weren’t like the lads back in Rotterdam. It had been small Abenaki lads, just like these, that tried to take his scalp the first year as a trapper. He’d killed them all with the blood flowing down the side of his face and a chunk of his scalp flapping about like a wig.

And so he’d need to be ready. Hunting knives hung from the belts at their waists. But none carried a war club. Only one held a bow.

Jan sneaked back the way he had come and then up and around in front of them so that the boys would walk right up the trail into him. The path bent around a hill where the river willow grew thick. He waited for them there.

He withdrew rope and a knife from his pack. He couldn’t kill them, but he could tie them up and scare them into good Christian men.

Rated R. Contains some sex and some violence and some fun battle scenes.
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 02:20:47 PM »
This is a great story.  I must say this is one of the best PC has run.  I found myself engaged from the beginning to the end.  I could see the end a mile away, but it did not detract me from enjoying it. 

My only problem with the story is that the fantasy element, (a magic tattoo) was a little weak. 
Good job PC, another winner along the lines of Moon Viewing at Shijo Bridge.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 04:00:07 PM »
Fabulous giant. Well read, well put together I saw the happily ever after ending and enjoyed the ride up to it. I sort of wished there had been better descriptions of the people that inhabited this tale, as they struck me as somehow diffrent then my "typical" image of native peoples of the same time period. The accents the narrator used threw me time and time again- but over all it was well read.
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 10:51:27 PM »
I found this delightful. Just a little dash of fantasy to it. Most of the delight for me was just the sweet love story between this awkward guy and the woman.

I didnt find the fantasy element weak, personally.. I did find it sort of an extra, though. It certainly is NOT the centerpoint of the story.. that was the relationship that developed between this guy and the woman, which obviously wasn't influenced by the magic at all.

Which was the whole point.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 07:18:02 AM »
A very enjoyable story.

The only things I could say against it:

* The reader, I think, used TOO many different voices. The one for Lancaster, in particular, jolted me out of the narrative.
* Was it already time for another Giant Episode?
* The author used "and then he/and then she" way too many times.
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 09:13:18 AM »
Excellent. I enjoyed it! I think this is the best podcastle yet.

I do agree, the fantasy element was quite weak. still enjoyable. I'm glad it was published.

I also liked how the religious elements were handled. very subtle, very nice that they weren't the point, just character traits.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 12:23:54 PM »
  Getting the beating a dead horse out of the way first. Osaka's first comment upon the end of the episode was "What was fantasy about that?". I reminded her of the tattoo, and then had to explain to her again what it was supposed to do. So yeah, the "fantasy" in this is a bit iffy, but it was still a great story, and certainly a better one than the last Giant.

  I liked the reading alot, and really enjoyed the way the battle scene was written and read. I didn't feel the accents were over-done, but that they differentiated the character's nicely. I wouldn't mind hearing more stories read by Mr. Fowlie.
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 01:58:17 PM »
Not a bad story, and very well read. But for a large part of the story I was just pissed off that once again there is so much emphasis given to physical appearances.

Why is it such an important trope of the genre? why is it so often that in fantasy stories the protagonist can only find his/her love after undergoing some magical improvement, be it a love potion, an elixir to make them more beautiful or make others see their inner beauty or make them younger or thinner or in some way overcome their ugliness by doing great deeds or something of the sort.

Obviously, in this story the point was that the main character finds his love in the end not because she is magically tricked into thinking he is more attractive than he really is (although I don't think we ever find out she is immune to the magic of the tattoo), but because she is just as much an outsider in society and awkward as he is and they get along very well, etc etc. .... Ok, fine. But that does not change the fact that people in their environment seem  to put a lot of emphasis on physical appearances, otherwise he would not have been given the tattoo in the first place. It is just getting a bit annoying to see it being such a driving factor in the genre that I am starting to resent it a bit.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 09:13:44 AM »
Really well researched (seemingly, since I don't know much about the history) and such an interesting combination of cultures intermingling. I agree that it didn't feel like fantasy, but I'm not sure I really care about that. 

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 04:03:35 PM »
Gets a thumbs up from me.  And I think it easily qualifies as fantasy.  The magical element was important - actually pretty central - to the story.  That it's just one element of fantasy made it stronger.  Adding Iroquois Werewolves or something would have diluted the effect. 

And I like any story that treats Native Americans in a fair and interesting fashion without resorting to turning the European settlers into round eyed devils. 

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 10:40:02 AM »
I don't have a lot to add except that I really loved this one. More colonial American fantasy, I say.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 10:41:39 AM »
Fabulous.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 11:08:02 AM »
I enjoyed the story, but the i felt the fantasy element was so weak as to be near nonexistent. There wasn't anything to suggest to me that the tattoo actually worked on Whatsername. I prefer to think that it didn't; so if that's the case, then the only fantastic part of the story was that it seemed to work on other women he had no interest in. To me, the whole tattoo thing could have been taken out completely and the story wouldn't have gained or lost anything. So, while i enjoyed it, the strong support from everyone else makes me worry that we'll get more stories that can barely be defined as fantasy. While i certainly don't mind it if it's a good story, i'd prefer it not be overdone.

For what it's worth, i feel like this first year of Podcastle has spanned the genre quite nicely (this one included)!

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2009, 12:43:47 PM »
I liked this one.  But I'm partial to historicals (not just the ones in feudal Japan, although they are a favorite).
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2009, 01:13:13 PM »
Uh-oh, stePH and I both liked this one.  Is that a bad thing?

Now that I have a little time, I'd like to say more than just, "Fabulous".

This story could have gone on for another hour and I wouldn't have minded.  The ending was a little abrupt, but I don't think that hurt the story at all.  I enjoyed Jan and his awkwardness with polite society.  Here is a man who is confident in his abilities, but take him out of his element and he's nervous and ruffled.  I don't think he would have cared what anyone else thought about him if not for the fact that he was interested in Shannon.

This and Moon Viewing are why I like Giants, and 2 of the top 5 stories PC has run.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2009, 07:53:41 PM »
Forgot to mention, mine cut off at the end, right in the middle of the closing quote.
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2009, 05:05:15 AM »
Not much to add here. Fascinating story, interesting, multi-dimensional characters and cultural treatments, and an overall excellent treatment of a rarely-used setting.

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2009, 09:22:35 AM »
I really liked this story. It flowed well, and the voice work was really great!  The setting was interesting and detailed enough.  If I were going to have to say there was a 'downside' the story was that the description of the fighting scenes got pretty bloody.  But, gee, let's see...it was a BATTLE!

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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2009, 11:58:32 AM »
I was a fan of Jan's super-intricate Medieval-style cursing. "By Prince Williams' beard!" hee hee.
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Re: PC047 Giant Episode: Bright Waters
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2009, 12:33:00 PM »
While it was nice to have a story in which something happened for once it didn't really keep my attention. I listened to it after lunch and fell asleep for the second third of the story and, on waking up, it didn't really sound like I'd missed anything.