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Author Topic: PC Giant: The Curandero And The Swede: A Tale From The 1001 American Nights  (Read 24026 times)

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Here's one more request for a do-over. The audio quality started off poor and got worse. After about 10 minutes I bailed--the first time I've ever bailed on an EA story. I simply couldn't hear it--at maximum volume--over outside noise.



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It's odd, because I generally find the longer the Podcastle story the more likely it is that I won't like it, I don't know why but I often find the lost art of brevity a powerful aid to the success of a story. However, struggling past the awful quality of the sound file, I was really taken with the story. It reminded me of 'The Hunt' from the Sandman, with it's tribe of Romany werewolves living in the modern suburban America. Each digression coloured the world wonderfully, and I found it's message at the end to be a positive and inspiring one. I hope that this will get remastered quickly for those that couldn't listen to the original to hear and appreciate.



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It's odd, because I generally find the longer the Podcastle story the more likely it is that I won't like it, I don't know why but I often find the lost art of brevity a powerful aid to the success of a story.

I don't find that odd at all.  For me, one of the greatest attributes for a great story is "it was exactly as long as it needed to be".  If a story is too short, then you're missing important details, or the character wasn't developed enough.  If a story was too long, then there's needless fluff.

The longer a story is, the more likely it is too long (for my tastes).  I've read very few stories that were 20k words that couldn't have been improved by cutting them to 15k. 

That's one of the reasons I like flash fiction so much (and I'm a slush reader for flash fiction).  Even if you don't like the story, at least it didn't take long to not like it.  :) 



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I unfortunately had to stop listening to this. It's the first time ever, but as English is not my first language, and as the sound quality actually decreased as I was listening, I could not understand anything.

If we can still vote to remaster it, please add my vote!



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A lot of comments about the audio, so I'll just add a hearty "me too".

I think the narrator did a good job with Uncle Dab's storytelling voice.

For a long time I really, really didn't like this story. Obviously the whole point of it is to parallel "1001 Arabian Nights", and that's fine, but I guess I just don't like that style. It really only works for me as a graphic novel (Sandman, anyone?); when Elizabeth Kostova did it in "The Historian" -- which was pretty damn boring anyway -- I didn't like it there either.

The individual stories were very cool -- the trucker on Route 666, the young woman visiting the Curandero, the Swede, the Swede's "cure". I have to admit, though, the moment Uncle Dab started lecturing the MC I knew how the story was going to end. If the MC himself didn't realize it then I fear I'm going to lose a lot of respect for him.

I don't know if I'll read the book when it's released, because (as I said) I didn't really care for the storytelling style, but this particular piece had a lot of great historical details told through the eyes of a character who, as someone living in the South, I totally can recognize and understand the viewpoint of. If anything was wrong with the telling of the tales themselves it was that Uncle Dab was a little too apologetic about how he referred to people in the whole "well I'm going to call you this but I'm not really bigoted" fashion of reformed racists. It was somewhat heavy-handed toward the end, when the Swede got his "cure". Maybe that's part of Uncle Dab's character, but if so I think that probably could use a little rewriting to make him less verbally apologetic -- him throwing the MC a look is enough.

I do wonder what tale Abbie will tell when her turn comes.

Overall, a lot of good stories crammed into a framework I didn't like, which lessened the episode somewhat, as did the technical quality of the recording.

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For me, the main character of the story was Storytelling itself.  That was the point for me of all of the stories within stories, branching out and tendriling and some disappearing and some coming back to the main thread.  The story was about the power of just wrapping all of your experience in story and thereby imbuing it with irreversible significance.  There are risks in doing that too of course, but then there are always risks.  Anyway, I thought it was beautifully done.  A real meta-tale.




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I vote for the remaster as well.  As a hearing-impaired person, I had great difficulty understanding what was being said.  From what I could tell in the first 10 minutes, I think it would be a story I would like, if I could hear it.

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Wow. I wanted to know how the story went, but after a few minutes, the poor sound quality forced me to hit Skip on my player. It was hurting my ears. Too bad, it was an interesting start.

(having gone back and read some comments)

Oh good, it wasn't just me.

Put me down on the petition for a remastered version, too. I'd like to hear the rest of it.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2009, 09:50:37 PM by Dave »

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I feel bad that my first post on these forums is to fuss about something but the audio quality of this episode was appalling. Escape Artist Productions has been one of the standard setters for quality in podcasting. I remember Steve Eley apologizing on early episodes of Escapepod for what to me seemed minor glitches in the sound. However, this episode was inexcusable. If a reader turns in audio this poor again it should be scrapped and handed out a different reader to rerecord. The fact this episode was released is very confusing considering the hard work that so many people are putting into making this podcast as good as it has been up to this point.



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Well, I listened to the whole thing on my commute to and then from work, and my ears actually hurt after both times, because the amount of white noise produced by the combination of the road, my car, and the background noise in the reader's environment was immense. 

But it was worth it.  If I had known that the author of this story was the author of "The Cambist and Lord Iron" I would have listened a lot sooner, as that is one of my favorite short stories of the last 5 years.  The story within a story is very reminiscent of my father-in-law's storytelling style.  He was from Texas, and would often take an innocent topic, and stretch it out to hours of storytelling on his front porch, while he and I enjoyed a few beers.  Most of his family had heard all his stories and tales over the years, but they were all new to me, so he was more than happy to share. 

Thank you for featuring this story, it was heartily enjoyed, audio flaws and all.

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The story was so good I never noticed the audio, and narration was perfect for the content.  It also resonated with my own experiences.  Two thumbs up!

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Like others, I was interested in the story, but couldn't listen more than 10 minutes due to the very poor sound quality.



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Beautiful touching story with a great ending - I loved it, including the story nestled in the story nestled in the story. Then again, I loved Carlos Ruiz Zafon and Isabel Allende too. My favorite character was the Mexican witch doctor/therapist. I agree the audio was awful and the narrator's mostly flat recital didn't do the story any favors either.



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For me, the main character of the story was Storytelling itself.  That was the point for me of all of the stories within stories, branching out and tendriling and some disappearing and some coming back to the main thread.  The story was about the power of just wrapping all of your experience in story and thereby imbuing it with irreversible significance.

Very well said, internalogic!

The final point - if you can't tell the story of your own life, it's missing the soul of it - that was powerfully, powerfully conveyed. Made me cry.

And the reading was spot-on. I know a few, great oral storytellers, who can take an everyday story and make it hours-worth of art, carring your attention through a thousand digressions. It takes a sense of tension, and timing. This had both. Congratulations to both Daniel Abraham and Kip Manley - very well done, both of you.

The audio quality, as has been said, was terrible. At first, I honestly thought the character was "Uncle Dad." (The story of how he met his wife musta been something else...)

So, here's another vote for remastering. I'm grateful for the chance to hear the story, and I would *love* to have a copy clear and good enough to share with friends not familiar with the podcast.



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Hey, did this story ever get re-released without the static? I'd like to give it a listen...

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Unfortunately, it has not, although it was talked about and may still be a possibility. Let me look into it some more.


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"Actually, it's a pretty good story."

And you all should get to hear it - and hear it much more clearly - very soon.

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Happy Valentine's Day, people! It's been re-recorded.

You can find it either in the original post, or in this blog post.

Enjoy!


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Awesome!!!!   ;D



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Well, this is humiliating. It turns out that there were some blips - repeated lines, etc. in the narration. If you haven't listened yet, you should probably late until the corrected version gets posted. Apologies to everyone, especially to Mr. Abraham. We'll have it fixed as soon as possible.