Author Topic: Union Dues may be coming to television!  (Read 65144 times)

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Reply #100 on: February 14, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
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Reply #101 on: February 15, 2010, 12:27:59 AM
That.  Was.  So.  Cool.

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Reply #103 on: February 27, 2010, 12:41:41 AM
Kinetic Girl

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Reply #104 on: February 27, 2010, 03:55:57 AM
OK, you ALMOST made me squee with those pics.

And I don't squee...

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Reply #105 on: February 27, 2010, 04:33:51 AM
I didn't squee.

What I did do, however, was say, "Holy s**t! That's amazing!"

And then I realized I was still at work.

Oops. :)

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Reply #106 on: February 27, 2010, 08:10:03 AM
I squeed

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Reply #107 on: February 27, 2010, 02:58:45 PM
I squeed as well.  The pics so far are looking amazing.  Can't wait to see the finished product


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Reply #108 on: February 27, 2010, 04:34:37 PM
I squeed as well.  The pics so far are looking amazing.  Can't wait to see the finished product

There are some other images coming soon. I've seen one of the other finished ones from this artist and it looks amazing - for you guys it'll be a character that's only had one line in all of the Union Dues stories, but he's a critical player in the series vision, the whole storyline of a tale named "A Handshake, A Gold Watch, A Candle" is going to provide a first season story arc and the main characters from that story are the main characters, i.e. the First Team, for the whole first season.

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Reply #109 on: March 07, 2010, 09:13:30 AM
I know I'm incredibly late to this thread, but I just heard about it and wanted to contribute at least a little bit.

Union Dues would be compelling because it has something that I like - the superheroes, the powers, etc - but that's the sideshow. The main event is people wrestling with situations they aren't prepared for, weighing difficult ethical choices, and trying to exist in a power structure that is both necessary for the society that built it to function, and totally screwed up on so many levels.

Build a show around that - similar to the wire, or even something like rescue me. Show us folks doing a difficult job and dealing with the fallout. Sure, they have the powers and stuff, but treat those as a minor effect. An episode where someone has to come and take a baby away from a family that loves it - and arguably, it's the right choice - holy crap, that would be compelling.

I'm a geek, and while I love me some incredibly detailed pseudo-science explanation of how everything works, don't do that. The people are the thing to focus on.

To answer the original question that was asked - the costumey hero shows have failed because they *were* juvenile. The heroes only encountered problems that could be solved with the special effects budget that the show had available.

For union dues, you want to show that the problems that can be solved with powers are often the easiest and simplest things the characters need to deal with in any given episode. It would be a whole different ball of wax, and one I would really love to watch.

Thanks for the great stories - I hope you get to write some more. I'm pulling for you. :-)



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Reply #110 on: March 09, 2010, 09:43:48 PM
Johnny Proton! Enjoy! (I totally love this one)

http://twitpic.com/17l6dy

Art by Tariq Raheem.

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Reply #111 on: March 09, 2010, 09:46:58 PM
Wow! Another great image. I managed not to exclaim out loud at work, this time. I kept it inside. :)

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Reply #112 on: March 09, 2010, 09:51:39 PM
Wow! Another great image. I managed not to exclaim out loud at work, this time. I kept it inside. :)
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Reply #113 on: March 09, 2010, 10:28:07 PM
These are really looking good.  Can't wait to see more


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Reply #114 on: March 10, 2010, 08:35:03 AM
This artist is great! I'm loving these updates!

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Reply #115 on: March 23, 2010, 03:25:47 PM
gar!
i have to run off and re-listen to all the UD now!

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Reply #116 on: March 23, 2010, 04:05:11 PM
good greef! i had forgoton how many of theas EP had published :-)

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Reply #117 on: March 23, 2010, 05:34:55 PM
Only just now listened to the ep where this was announced, so I'm late; also, I haven't yet read through the whole thread, so I'm probably repeating things people have said elsewhere.  But I want to get my thoughts down before I lose them, so here you go. :-)

To me, a successful superhero story would find a balance somewhere between (say) the old Adam West Batman show and Heroes.  Batman, of course, belonged to an older period of TV, where shows were usually purely episodic -- as my friends and I kept saying for Smallville, "what happens in the previous episode stays in the previous episode."  These days you need growth and change and arc plot to keep people interested.  BUT!  Heroes, I think, shows how this can go wrong.  Certain characters "grew" by getting more powerful, and the problem with that is, it can easily become silly; they start looking like Mary Sues/Gary Stus, and the scale of threat needed to cause trouble for them ends up being so over-the-top it's just not engaging anymore.  Also, the show overlapped its various narrative threads so thoroughly that very few episodes felt like they provided any degree of closure; I enjoyed Heroes (for a while, anyway), but I don't think I could name off a single specific episode I'd go back and watch.  Because none of them stand out from the rest.

The example I would pick, though it's from a totally different genre, is Supernatural.  That show has its own problems -- missteps on the race and gender fronts, for example -- but the professional writer in me is deeply admiring of the way they balance Monster of the Week-ness against long-term growth.  Most episodes are relatively self-contained narratives, but contain material that builds both character change and arc plot over the course of five seasons.  And it does a nice job with the power curve, less for the protagonists (who mostly are just highly-trained humans) than for the threats they face, such that by S5 they've built to a pretty epic pitch without ever making a jump that seems unreasonable.  They also manage, though not always quite successfully, to keep enough humour in to leaven the otherwise constantly-darkening narrative.

I've only heard about half of the Union Dues stories, so I don't have a particularly strong opinion on which specific characters should show up, etc, but I *can* say that character in general would be the thing that draws me in.  An ensemble (a small one, not the giant and ever-growing herd of Heroes) with a strong dynamic, where the external threats they face both reflect and drive the characters' growth and change over time . . . I am THERE.  I far prefer that to the solo-hero style of Batman or Superman.  Heroes almost managed it, but never quite pulled together firmly enough for me to really get engaged.



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Reply #118 on: April 19, 2010, 10:31:27 PM
I can't find the Union Dues Fan Page on Facebook?...Is it still there?  Is the dream dead?



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Reply #119 on: April 19, 2010, 10:44:08 PM
Here is a link the Union Dues FB group page.  My last update was March 11.

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Reply #120 on: April 20, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Here is a link the Union Dues FB group page.  My last update was March 11.

I'll see if I can get Doug to be more active. There isn't much to report at the moment, commissioned artwork is coming in slowly, and pitch materials are being assembled. I've written two more Union Dues stories that need additional editing. The Union Dues website, 1800gounion.com is coming along slowly.

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Reply #121 on: April 21, 2010, 03:32:41 AM
Darksider (from the Union Dues Facebook group)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4461453&op=1&o=all&view=all&subj=208365675635&aid=-1&oid=208365675635&id=504941296

"Darksider: Super Strategist and member of the “Special Services” division- a department which handles intelligence and internal affairs for The Union of Superhumans. Shrouded in mystery, Darksider seems to have the ability to be almost anywhere, at any given time. Darksider's “Special Services” is as terrifying as the KGB, and as protective as mom and dad."

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Reply #122 on: June 22, 2010, 05:09:06 AM
The Union Dues website is live at www.1800gounion.com!

Go Union!

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Reply #123 on: June 22, 2010, 07:06:13 AM
awesome. Looks great.



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Reply #124 on: June 22, 2010, 12:25:17 PM
awesome. Looks great.

Thanks! Once they found the right web-guy it came together quickly :)

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