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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2010, 03:40:25 PM » |
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In print, Angus Thermopyle from Donaldson's "Gap" series. Simultaneously despicable and pitiable.
Wow. That's a gutsy pick. I haven't read all those books (yet) but what I have read, I'm shocked by how Donaldson in general seems able to make pretty much everyone both despicable and pitiable, as you said. It truly is one incredibly messed up series of books (and I mean that as a compliment). Keep reading. Angus, and the books, keep getting better, right up until the end. Probably the best collection of fiction Donaldson ever wrote. Angus is able to evoke such a bizzare range of emotions from the reader, all while behaving consistantly according to the character he is. He changes, but in ways that make sense. I'm also fascinated by the idea that someone can be driven to superhuman feats of endurance, strength, and skill by nothing more than sheer terror. Mind you, I pick him as my favorite character to read about. I sure as hell wouldn't want to meet him.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2010, 03:55:34 PM » |
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 Oh, man. I'm still waiting for the next great Longshot story. I did like some of the X-Men stuff he was in, but yeah, I loved that miniseries to pieces. I wonder if it'll ever happen... Longshot is currently appearing in Peter David's X-Factor. It's good stuff. Based around Madrox's detective agency, it's managed to do superhero noir. Longshot just joined the cast, it's not really clear how he'll fit in - but his always optimistic outlook seems to be providing a good foil for the cynical characters. Well worth picking up.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2010, 04:19:46 PM » |
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 Oh, man. I'm still waiting for the next great Longshot story. I did like some of the X-Men stuff he was in, but yeah, I loved that miniseries to pieces. I wonder if it'll ever happen... Longshot is currently appearing in Peter David's X-Factor. It's good stuff. Based around Madrox's detective agency, it's managed to do superhero noir. Longshot just joined the cast, it's not really clear how he'll fit in - but his always optimistic outlook seems to be providing a good foil for the cynical characters. Well worth picking up. Oh, wow. Thanks! I'll be on the lookout for it at my friendly neigborhood comic shop 
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2010, 10:14:50 PM » |
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My vote is for the "2nd tier" characters on B5. Garribaldi, Londo, G'Kar, etc.
Honor Harrington is another favorite.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2010, 10:28:05 AM » |
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'Firefly' was the mostest bestest evar, and I will beat you with a wet noodle if you disagree. I disagree. Bring it. 
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2010, 12:25:27 PM » |
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I loathe pretty much everything Joss Whedon has ever done.
Does not compute. 'Firefly' was the mostest bestest evar, and I will beat you with a wet noodle if you disagree. Firefly was awesome. However I think Cowboy Bebop did it better 
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2010, 01:21:58 PM » |
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'Firefly' was the mostest bestest evar, and I will beat you with a wet noodle if you disagree. I disagree. Bring it.  I can't believe I'm saying this, but Farscape was better than Firefly. Given more time, Firefly probably would have ended up being better, but they didn't get their time, and they had to cram everything into a movie. B5 is still tops in my book.
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2010, 03:59:33 PM » |
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'Firefly' was the mostest bestest evar, and I will beat you with a wet noodle if you disagree. I disagree. Bring it.  *brings it* I bet you're sorry now!!
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2010, 04:37:42 PM » |
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Farscape was better than Firefly. Given more time, Firefly probably would have ended up being better, but they didn't get their time, and they had to cram everything into a movie.
B5 is still tops in my book.
I agree with this psot. Apparently Whedon needs a couple of years to really get his groove. I've only started liking Dollhouse since about a month ago (couldn't really tell you why I kept at it the past couple of years... nothing better to do, I guess.)
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2010, 08:53:08 PM » |
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Farscape was better than Firefly. Given more time, Firefly probably would have ended up being better, but they didn't get their time, and they had to cram everything into a movie.
B5 is still tops in my book.
I agree with this psot. Apparently Whedon needs a couple of years to really get his groove. I've only started liking Dollhouse since about a month ago (couldn't really tell you why I kept at it the past couple of years... nothing better to do, I guess.) For what we got of Firefly versus the first half of the first season of Farscape... Firefly wins (It may even win against the first half of the first season of B5). Attempting to compare the series to longer ones that were fleshed out and had plotlines driven through to their conclusions isn't useful.
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2010, 11:14:27 PM » |
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Comparing the first half season of B5 and Firefly isn't exactly a fair comparison, either. B5 broke the mold, they were doing something new. Straight up comparing the 2 in a vacuum, the first half season of Firefly is better. But even I will admit that B5 Season 1 had some real stinkers.
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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2010, 09:57:57 AM » |
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'Firefly' was the mostest bestest evar, and I will beat you with a wet noodle if you disagree. ... I think Cowboy Bebop did it better  And first.
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