Pseudopod 182: The Dreaming Way

[Bdoomed]

Pseudopod 182: The Dreaming Way


By Jim Bihyeh
Read by Cayenne Chris Conroy of the Teknikal Diffikulties podcast

Her teachers never asked her to remove the headphones. What was the point? The girl earned a 100% on every quiz and exam, and when they called on her, Lynnette spat the answer back like a rifle ejecting a shell.

“The girl just has a way with tests,” her teachers repeated. “She knows how to prepare.”

But Lynette caught a lot of shit for her test grades. Part of the Navajo culture said that you weren’t supposed to stand out from the group. But Lynette already stood out.

“Lynette, Lyn-Ette! Teacher’s Pet!” went the usual recess refrain. “Lynette, Lyn-Ette! Teacher’s Pet! About as tall as a jumbo jet!”

And Lynette was tall. She towered past six feet by the time she reached eighth grade. And her long black hair that she rarely brushed only made her seem taller when it fell down over her wide shoulders; she was heavy-set, truly big-boned, more muscle than fat. And she put that muscle to use during the “Lynette Incidents,” as they came to be called.




Listen to this week's Pseudopod.

[kibitzer]

I'm loathe to comment on this one yet because I have questions which will probably ruin the story. I really enjoyed this one, as I have each of Jim's stories I've heard.

2 things:

1) Al, thoughtful and powerful outro. Thanks. It was very good to hear.

2) If I found what the MC found in the bath, I honestly don't know what I would do. I think it's quite possible I would have done the same thing.

[deflective]

it's odd to hear this one after love like thunder.  was that the author's intention or just the way that pseudopod ran them?

[Scattercat]

it's odd to hear this one after love like thunder.  was that the author's intention or just the way that pseudopod ran them?

I think the order is very intentional.  This story seems meant to fill in the gaps from "Love Like Thunder."

Unfortunately, for me at least, it was completely unnecessary.  I already read this story; it was completely implied within "Love Like Thunder," and I was actually really disappointed when I realized what it was.  No surprises.  No twists.  Nothing unexpected.  Nothing we hadn't already been given ample clues to figure out.  Nearly the only thing that wasn't directly stated in "Love Like Thunder" was the breed of the dog.  I actually really, deeply enjoyed the 'extra' story in "Love Like Thunder," being able to see the shape of the misguided girl's seduction and corruption in the unspoken parts of that story's narrative.  Having it filled in explicitly is a bit... well, honestly, it feels like the Star Wars prequels.  I'm sorry, but this was Episode I to me.  (My apologies, Jim.  That was kind of mean.  I may have overstated my case.  It's definitely not Episode II, if that makes you feel any better.)

On the whole, however, I am all in favor of Jim Bihyeh and welcome him and his Coyote Tales as Pseudopod's answer to the Union Dues.  I am just inordinately fond of hints and implication, and disproportionately displeased by unambiguous narrative.

[Bdoomed]

I'm sorry, but this was Episode I to me.  (My apologies, Jim.  That was kind of mean.  I may have overstated my case.  It's definitely not Episode II, if that makes you feel any better.)

On the whole, however, I am all in favor of Jim Bihyeh and welcome him and his Coyote Tales as Pseudopod's answer to the Union Dues.  I am just inordinately fond of hints and implication, and disproportionately displeased by unambiguous narrative.

woah woah woah dude.  Really?  Before you compare something such as this to Episode I, take each on its own.  As in, take this story on its own, pretend you never heard the others.  It's a good story, well written, etc etc.  Take Episode I on its own and it's still terrible.  You still don't want to watch it.  Big difference there if you ask me.

Haven't listened yet to this one tho, I was really excited as I was posting this episode when I saw it was another Bihyeh story.   I really enjoy the Coyote Tales.

[kibitzer]

I liked it but I still have questions -- c'mon, hurry up and listen 

[MacArthurBug]

on it's own merits a GREAT story. The ending wasn't predictable (to me) for a while and then it just made me sad. There was a beauty to the sadness here.

[feste451]

Lynnette's unfortunate physical appearance is balanced by her extraordinary mind, which she uses in ways those who have ever been bullied wish they could. Magical realism appears a lot in nature-based mythology and lore, but her method of revenge was quite a surprise. Though her methods were rather brutal, they were understandable. Some lines shouldn't be crossed.

This is a tale of satisfying revenge using a very uncommon method.

[gelee]

Excellent story, and wonderful reading by Mr. Conroy as well.  MacArthurBug hit the nail on the head.  Sad and lovely.
Comparing this piece to a Star Wars prequal is quite a bit much, don't you think? 

[Scattercat]

Excellent story, and wonderful reading by Mr. Conroy as well.  MacArthurBug hit the nail on the head.  Sad and lovely.
Comparing this piece to a Star Wars prequal is quite a bit much, don't you think? 

I'm almost as disappointed.  I really liked "Love Like Thunder."  I'm really bummed that he actually wrote the story so delightfully implied there.  Things left unsaid are more fun.

[gelee]

Excellent story, and wonderful reading by Mr. Conroy as well.  MacArthurBug hit the nail on the head.  Sad and lovely.
Comparing this piece to a Star Wars prequal is quite a bit much, don't you think? 

I'm almost as disappointed.  I really liked "Love Like Thunder."  I'm really bummed that he actually wrote the story so delightfully implied there.  Things left unsaid are more fun.

Right.  I understand the sentiment, even if I don't share it, but a lot of baggage comes along with that particular comparison.  Issues of crass commercialism, milking of cash cows, and dumbing down of subject matter for wider appeal.  See the "Stop George Lucas" thread in the Sci Fi discussion forum for details.
Personally, I think the two stories compliment each other nicely.  "Love Like Thunder" leaves us with "who was that little girl, and why did she kill all those children?"  This piece leaves us with, "why does the hitchhiker manipulate Lynette into killing all those kids?"  Together, I think they make a nice little knot.

[Unblinking]

Another excellent Bihyeh piece, which I've come to expect from the name.  It took me a little while to remember the association, and I've listened to hundreds of Escape Artists episodes since then, so the sheer bulk of intervening stories has fuzzed my memory a bit.  I remembered just enough to know that the man's prediction was inevitable. 

Comparisons to Star Wars Ep. I are definitely exaggerated.  This was a good story.  I can understand complaints of over-explaining a backstory, though I didn't personally have that complaint.  But to compare to Lucas's madness of recent decades is overly harsh.

[deflective]

has it ever actually been said that this is a prequel or are we just assuming that love like thunder came first because pseudopod ran it first?

[kibitzer]

Far as I can see, it's definitely a prequel. I went back and listened to bits of Love Like Thunder to make sure.

In that vein, one of my questions is: did the dude in the cowboy hat (does he have a name?) deliberately setup Lynette so's he could try to get what he wanted out of Dondo?

[madmatt]

I thought it was a brilliant contrast to "Love like Thunder" - where something special and unique survives, here something special and unique is lost.  For me "Love Like Thunder" was very uplifting, notwithstanding the horrific events within it, now seeing the sad story of Lynette brings a terrible tragedy to both stories that is very poignant.

Now these are my favorite two Pseudopod episodes by far.

[stePH]

I have no recollection of "Love Like Thunder" so it didn't affect my perception of this story.

Prior to listening, the title had me wondering if it would refer to Navaho spirituality in some way.

I liked this story a lot, and will have to go back and hear "Love Like Thunder" again.

[cdugger]

Won't get to finish it for a day or so, but so far I am loving it!

Not surprising. I really enjoy all of Jim's stuff, and Cheyenne is already on my list of "We're not worthy"s that I have to perform...

[WhiteShadow]

I really liked this one. I'm looking foward to another addition to The Coyote Tales?

[Unblinking]

Far as I can see, it's definitely a prequel. I went back and listened to bits of Love Like Thunder to make sure.

In that vein, one of my questions is: did the dude in the cowboy hat (does he have a name?) deliberately setup Lynette so's he could try to get what he wanted out of Dondo?

It's definitely a prequel, the events in this story were directly referenced by the other.

Regarding your question:  that's definitely what it looks like to me, he's doing it all to get the lightning feathers or whatever.  He most likely goaded the boys into doing what they did.

[feste451]

I just gave this story a second listen and realized the way this story, "Reservation Monsters" and "Love Like Thunder" are told from the perspectives of the main characters as part of the larger story, a method that gives Mr. Bihyeh a chance to mix up styles appropriate to the character, I am definitely hooked on this "series" and and am growing more eager to read (or listen to) what I hope will be a complete collection of Coyote Tales.

[stePH]

I just gave this story a second listen and realized the way this story, "Reservation Monsters" and "Love Like Thunder" are told from the perspectives of the main characters as part of the larger story, a method that gives Mr. Bihyeh a chance to mix up styles appropriate to the character, I am definitely hooked on this "series" and and am growing more eager to read (or listen to) what I hope will be a complete collection of Coyote Tales.

I would buy such a collection from Mr. Bihyeh, as I've already done for Eugie Foster.  Has he shopped these stories to a book publisher yet?

[Scattercat]

I thought he said there was a book in the works...  I know he mentioned a Coyote-Tales-specific podcast.

[Cayenne Chris Conroy]

Good God, Jim's stories are a joy to read... I mean, all of them have been fun; but these Coyote tales are just delightful.

[Unblinking]

Good God, Jim's stories are a joy to read... I mean, all of them have been fun; but these Coyote tales are just delightful.

They wouldn't be the same without you to read them.  I especially like your voice for the old man.  As long as these stories keep coming to Pseudopod, I hope they ring you to read them. 

[heyes]

Another wonderful story by a great writer, performed perfectly!
This episode will be making the rounds to all my friends!

[cdugger]

Alright Jim! Great tale!

And the reading was perfect! CCC is quickly becoming my favorite.

This was a prequel to the last one, wasn't it? Sorry if you all have covered that, I haven't had the chance to read the comments.

[gelee]

See, thing is, with the prequal label: We don't really know in what order they were written.  "Love Like Thunder" could very well be a sequal.  I think it more likely that they were written as part of a single larger narrative.

[Unblinking]

See, thing is, with the prequal label: We don't really know in what order they were written.  "Love Like Thunder" could very well be a sequal.  I think it more likely that they were written as part of a single larger narrative.

Love Like Thunder had to happen later, because it occurs during the aftermath of these events.

[Scattercat]

I think Gelee was just saying that it might be that "Dreaming Way" was written after "Love Like Thunder," to fill in the gaps, or it might have been written before "Love Like Thunder" as part of a straightforward continuing narrative.  Just because we heard them in one order doesn't mean that's the order they were written in (or even the order they were meant to be read in.)

[gelee]

I think Gelee was just saying that it might be that "Dreaming Way" was written after "Love Like Thunder," to fill in the gaps, or it might have been written before "Love Like Thunder" as part of a straightforward continuing narrative.  Just because we heard them in one order doesn't mean that's the order they were written in (or even the order they were meant to be read in.)

Yes, this

[deflective]

thanks for taking the time to clarify this gelee, i don't know why it was misunderstood so much

[Unblinking]

I think Gelee was just saying that it might be that "Dreaming Way" was written after "Love Like Thunder," to fill in the gaps, or it might have been written before "Love Like Thunder" as part of a straightforward continuing narrative.  Just because we heard them in one order doesn't mean that's the order they were written in (or even the order they were meant to be read in.)

Yes, this

Oh, okay.  I thought you were asking which story occurred first in the story's timeline.  As for which was written first, your guess is good as mine. 

[pitmonkey]

Great story, fantastic read and could Alasdair's outros be any better?  Quality stuff.  I absolutely loved when that big ol piece from Dreaming Way or Love Like Thunder just dropped into place.

Keep up the excellent work.

[Dave]

Add me to the list of persons who would gladly purchase the collected Coyote Tales in a dead-tree edition, or as a spoken-word CD read by Mr. Conroy.

[GuildSteersman]

I enjoyed this story wholeheartedly. Did anyone else feel that the hitchhiker may have just been in her mind? Maybe she didn't have the powers at all.

[Jim Bihyeh]

Hello,

This is Jim Bihyeh here and I just listened to the podcast last night while driving back from Washington D.C.

I can't thank Cayenne Chris Conroy enough. His Coyote voice makes me understand the character with each draft I've written on the newer tales. Ben Philips and his editors run a tight ship: they whipped this story into fine podcast shape before it went live. And Alasdair's thoughtful outtro was excellent!

I wanted to answer as many questions as I could about the work and I'll take them one at a time.

And if you have questions that I'm not answering I'd love to get the feedback.  Nothing makes a writer clearer or more polished than a careful reader/listener.

[Jim Bihyeh]

As for the order...

It’s amazing how sequencing can affect a story! Aristotle was right!

I wrote “The Dreaming Way” first. I’d been working on an outline for a YA novel titled “The Golden Bough” when I dreamt of Lynette Yazzie. Not only did I want to write the Navajo story of the Bear Maiden in a modern way, but I also wanted to explore the nature of dreams and perspective. Dondo Kee wasn’t written until a few weeks later. 

So there was little design in running this story after “Love Like Thunder.” I’d just submitted “Love Like Thunder” first because I liked it more. And the original draft of “The Dreaming Way” was so long that I didn’t think it could be podcasted on Pseudopod (yes, there is much more to Lynette’s story than is featured).

I hope that explains the strange sequencing.

And I’d agree that the Episode I comparison is a bit weird. The original Star Wars movies (Episode IV, V, and VI) were technically told “out of order,” but we still loved them because of their quality writing and direction. The first three – especially the second – were noticeably inferior films. And – of course – they didn’t have Han…

[Jim Bihyeh]

on it's own merits a GREAT story. The ending wasn't predictable (to me) for a while and then it just made me sad. There was a beauty to the sadness here.

I can't thank you enough for the compliment. I wrote this story to communicate that beautiful sadness. Lynette is that same inevitable victim who is willing to destory the society and corrupt ways of life surrounding her. I don't known if this is an evil thing or not. It seemed that some of you thought her reaction to Rocky's death was realistic -even reasonable. That's very interesting to me - and not in a vague way. I think it says alot about how people can shed any imposed morality to defend their self-imposed dignity and revenge any self-fulfilling love.

[Scattercat]

And I’d agree that the Episode I comparison is a bit weird. The original Star Wars movies (Episode IV, V, and VI) were technically told “out of order,” but we still loved them because of their quality writing and direction. The first three – especially the second – were noticeably inferior films. And – of course – they didn’t have Han…

As I tried (and apparently failed) to clarify, the point I was making was that I really liked the implied storyline in "Love Like Thunder," which I was comparing to the implied storyline of the Star Wars movies (i.e. Darth Vader's fall and transformation).  I think one of the biggest weaknesses of the Star Wars prequels is that they were filling in the specifics of something that hadn't needed to be filled in; Darth Vader's tragic fall was shaped by the portrayal of his redemption.  In the same  way, I thought "Love Like Thunder" was stronger because we didn't know the specifics of the girl's motivations or the precise nature of her relationship to the strange old man, but we saw enough to discern the basic shape of things. 

Again, I have a strong (perhaps too strong) preference for hints, implications, and things left unsaid.  (Yes, I know that's not how the album name goes, but "allegations" was a terrible word choice.)  This story isn't bad, and you'll notice I never said it was comparable in quality to Episode I, but merely comparable in its disappointing detail that ruined my cherished mystery. 

[Jim Bihyeh]

This story isn't bad, and you'll notice I never said it was comparable in quality to Episode I, but merely comparable in its disappointing detail that ruined my cherished mystery. 

I understand your point about mystery: one of the reasons I fell in love with Stephen King's The Dark Tower series was its sense of history and mysterious, in medias res plot design. The Royal Hall. The Last Burning of Gilead. The Battle of Jericho Hill. These were convincing visions in the architecture of Roland's psyche. And I feel they've been ruined by the Marvel comic prequels. And even though I LOVE Peter David's work (especially the way he jump-started Aquaman in the 1990s) and the stellar art of Jae Lee, I just can't get into the comic adaptation of what is probably my favorite series of novels. When I see that a new collection or graphic novel has been released, it just makes a bitter taste in my mouth.

You're right: sometimes it's just better not to know and best not to show... Precious mystery is powerful and important.

Though, I did write Lynette first, so I suppose the resulting two stories were inevitably going to reveal one another.
 

[stePH]

I understand your point about mystery: one of the reasons I fell in love with Stephen King's The Dark Tower series was its sense of history and mysterious, in medias res plot design. The Royal Hall. The Last Burning of Gilead. The Battle of Jericho Hill. These were convincing visions in the architecture of Roland's psyche. And I feel they've been ruined by the Marvel comic prequels.

Like they weren't already ruined before that, by Stephen King's own volumes 5-7?

[Scattercat]

Though, I did write Lynette first, so I suppose the resulting two stories were inevitably going to reveal one another.

I kinda had the feeling you'd written this one first, anyway.  Can't really complain per se, but just... ah, well.  Everything's always gotta be nailed down, y'know?

[Unblinking]

I understand your point about mystery: one of the reasons I fell in love with Stephen King's The Dark Tower series was its sense of history and mysterious, in medias res plot design. The Royal Hall. The Last Burning of Gilead. The Battle of Jericho Hill. These were convincing visions in the architecture of Roland's psyche. And I feel they've been ruined by the Marvel comic prequels.

Like they weren't already ruined before that, by Stephen King's own volumes 5-7?

I liked the series as a whole, as long as I retcon out the last 20 pages or so.

[Jim Bihyeh]

I just gave this story a second listen and realized the way this story, "Reservation Monsters" and "Love Like Thunder" are told from the perspectives of the main characters as part of the larger story, a method that gives Mr. Bihyeh a chance to mix up styles appropriate to the character, I am definitely hooked on this "series" and and am growing more eager to read (or listen to) what I hope will be a complete collection of Coyote Tales.

I would buy such a collection from Mr. Bihyeh, as I've already done for Eugie Foster.  Has he shopped these stories to a book publisher yet?

Believe me, when I do finally take these tales to a publisher (and if they are willing to take the risk to publish them) I'll be sure to announce it on Pseudopod.

And there is a larger story at work, believe me...

And I'm glad you picked up on the use of multiple characters. Navajo storytelling hinges on character perspective. While the Coyote figure is often a trickster in Native American folklore, in the Navajo perspective Coyote is not only a trickster, but a roamer, thief, warrior, gambler, villain, hero... it all depends on the perspective.

There is a very strong understanding of perspective in the Navajo Way. It's considered rude or "stupid" or strange to say that something simply IS. To say that Coyote is a deceptive villain would be better said - in the traditional way - as "Coyote is a deceptive villain, they say." The "they say" is key. I am a fan of this cultural, ingrained sense of caution.

Too bad Coyote isn't 

[Narfnitsirk]

As I listened, Love Like Thunder came back to me, and I realized where the story was going.  I kept wondering if maybe it would be different this time, I really liked Lynette, I didn't want her to kill those people.  Part of the fun, I thought, was watching the inevitable unfold and seeing how we got there.

I don't think it would be much of a risk for a publisher to take these on, they're really great tales, well written and well thought out.

[Azarel]

"Love like Thunder" is one of my all time favorite Pseudopod episodes.  This is among 2 episodes that I tried to have my wife listen to ... in the vain hope that she 'gets' the beauty of audio fiction (alas!).

Mr Cayenne Chris Conroy's voice talents are **outstanding**.  I especially love his 'Coyote' voice.

The Dreaming Way was a pleasant re-immersion into that world of the Navahoe.  And I hope for many more tales from the author. 

[Jim Bihyeh]

"Love like Thunder" is one of my all time favorite Pseudopod episodes.  This is among 2 episodes that I tried to have my wife listen to ... in the vain hope that she 'gets' the beauty of audio fiction (alas!).

Mr Cayenne Chris Conroy's voice talents are **outstanding**.  I especially love his 'Coyote' voice.

The Dreaming Way was a pleasant re-immersion into that world of the Navahoe.  And I hope for many more tales from the author. 

I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed "Love Like Thunder"! It's always great to hear that someone appreciates the work so much that they're willing to use it to convert their loved ones 

I'd agree. It's the greatest of fortunes to be able to have my work read by Mr. Conroy. His Coyote voice works so well. And I can't wait to write more of these tales. I miss the Navajo Reservation whenever I have to be away, and so these stories are an awesome way for me to revisit all my old haunts on "da Rez."

[eytanz]

It took me a while to get to this one, mostly because, once I heard the first few minutes, I remembered the story from "Love like thunder" and knew where it was going, and decided it wasn't right for my mood at the time. But now that I've heard it, I have a couple of comments:

A. On it's own merits, it's a very good story, well written.

B. It really adds very little to "Love Like Thunder" and "Reservation Monsters". The plot was revealed by "Love Like Thunder", the themes of alienation and hardship of being an outsider in the reservation were captured equally well by "Reservation Monsters". Had I heard this one before "Love Like Thunder", I would have appreciated it much more for the plot value, and LLT would not have lost much as this is just the backdrop to that anyway.

Still a very good story, though, and an excellent narration.

[Bdoomed]

finally found time to listen, oh man this was awesome.  It definitely works better without the knowledge of "Love Like Thunder", but I also liked the notion of knowing that Lynette would start sniping people.
The image of children playing, obliviously, in pools of blood is very awesome and creepy.  I just imagined someone walking by the school, someone not under Lynette's influence.  *chuckle*
And I like seeing how conniving the hitchhiker is.  I'll have to give "Love Like Thunder" another listen now, and I'd love to hear more Coyote Tales!

oh, and the narration was spot on, great job!

[Jim Bihyeh]

finally found time to listen, oh man this was awesome.  It definitely works better without the knowledge of "Love Like Thunder... I just imagined someone walking by the school, someone not under Lynette's influence.  *chuckle*
And I like seeing how conniving the hitchhiker is.  I'll have to give "Love Like Thunder" another listen now, and I'd love to hear more Coyote Tales!

I'm glad that the world of Ganado, Arizona was worth your time! And I agree... can you imagine seeing that basketball game at recess if you were driving by on the highway? Or walking down from the hill above the middle school? Horrors within horrors.

And I'm also flattered that you'd like to see more of the Coyote Tales! I cant wait to finish them. I'm currently polishing the final draft of a tale titled "Black Body" and will soon start the draft for a tale titled "Walk in Beauty."

And believe me, that bastard Coyote gets even more conniving as we go.

[Fenrix]

I think this is my favorite Coyote Tale yet. I loved the magic and how it worked. I'm going to have to go back and relisten to LLT again.

[Jim Bihyeh]

Hello All,

Here's a little Halloween "treat" for you folks who have enjoyed "Coyote Tales" in the past.

I'm glad to say that “Coyote Tales” is FINALLY available in its entirety from Blackston Audio. In a downloadable format. And narrated by the awesome Cayenne Chris Conroy. You can find it on Amazon.com, Audible.com, Downpour.com, Audiobooks.com, and Waterstones.com.

I hope all is well as the season turns into autumn. And I hope your Halloween is night of superstition and fraught with terror. I’ll look forward to hearing from you here if you have any questions.

Take care,
Jim Kristofic
 
P.S. – I have included a list and brief summaries of the tales below, if you are interested to check it out and review it.

Reservation Monsters
-   A young boy with a monster living under his bed learns from Coyote that most monsters are far worse than the ones that go bump in the night.

The Dreaming Way
-   After Coyote reveals her hidden powers, a teenage girl must decide whether she will use them to save or destroy her community.

Love Like Thunder
-   A tragic schoolyard shooting invites a strange creature who sets up camp next to the local cemetery, where he goes to visit the dead so that he may live a few days longer.

The Speed of Lightning
-   In this novella, Shaun Sallabye, a famous high school runner, gets a shot of talent from Coyote that will push him to his limits, if it doesn’t break him first.

The Shooting Way
-   Jesse Benally is coming home to the Reservation. He doesn’t believe in witchcraft. But when his Aunt Bonita is afflicted with a strange sickness, he must meet with the local medicine man, who teaches Jesse that native witches don’t care what he believes in and what he doesn’t.

Black Body
-   Fernando Gishi waits for his father to get out of prison and rejoin his family. But after he finds the body of a dead girl in the desert, he must rely on his friends as a dark force reaches out to make a deal. And it’ll be a deal that he can’t refuse.

Changing Woman
-   Nellie Begay, a former combat nurse, is missing her daughter. When a supernatural force might know where she is, Nellie must find the strength to heal herself and talk to Changing Woman.

The Darkest Roots Run Deep
-   Ronnie Long, a maintenance worker barely making ends meet, will have to look to his girlfriend and their unborn child in order to forgive the biggest mistake of his life. Before it kills him.

Remember By Your Scars
-   Jane Lewis is a white nurse who fled the East coast and the scars of abusive relationships. And when her latest ends, a new man walks into her life and reopens all the scars she’s tried to hide.

The Bathroom People
-   LeCaine Keeyahani hates working fast-food but he hates the idea of leaving the Reservation even more. When his dying grandfather asks for LeCaine to help him end his life with dignity, only The Bathroom People hold the answer to LeCaine’s future.

[Fenrix]

Sounds like it's time to get an audible membership!

[eytanz]

Oh wow, that's really cool!

It's also available from iTunes, if like me you are living in that ecosystem. It's rather pricey - I hope most of the money is going to Jim and Cayenne.