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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2010, 12:00:42 PM »

Dave, I think you may have done the story a disservice by building it up as hilarious in the intro.  Humour is very subjective.  It might have been better just to say that you found it hilarious (which I expect you meant to imply by saying it's funny, but some people will take it as you meaning it's intrinsically funny for everyone).

Wait, you guys take me seriously now? After I broke up with you last week? Some people never learn...

But regarding a "disservice": I don't know. Maybe? I mean, I just recorded an intro for an upcoming story that I thought was badass, and so I called it badass.  If we've got something I think is charming, I'll call it charming. I thought this story was pretty funny, so I called it hilarious. (Okay, I think I actually said "totally hilarious." Maybe it wasn't "totally," but I did think it was pretty hilarious.) But really - I think I only referred to it as funny once in the intro...now the badass thing a few weeks from now - okay, maybe I went overboard.

I mean, it's cool that other people didn't find it funny - and I agree that humor is a very subjective thing - but this story cracked me up. I must've listened to David's narration of it three times. Flipping off the shit demon, calling him a malaka, knocking him into the Sound where nano-technology makes brown froth out of him and his donkey? Okay, yeah, I'm a sick puppy. But I laughed. A lot.

Liberals. Sheesh.

I know a writer who submitted a story to particular magazine, referring to it in the cover letter as a "humorous story".  The editor liked it, but didn't think it was funny, and rejected it saying "if you hadn't said it was funny I would have been more likely to take it."

We're kind of getting off topic here, butL Really? I mean, I'm not questioning that happened, but that seems nuts to me.

If I read a story that was trying to be funny but didn't think it actually was, I'd reject it because I didn't think it was funny. I definitely wouldn't reject it because someone's cover letter suggested it was funny. (That said - it's probably sound advice not to describe stories in cover letters. I just can't imagine rejecting someone's story based on a disagreement I have with their description of it in their cover letter.)

ETA: Damned typo.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2010, 02:56:51 PM »

If you'd reject a story that was trying to be funny and wasn't, then wouldn't the author describing it as "funny" in the cover letter indicate that he/she was trying to be funny and (presuming the story wasn't funny) failed?
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2010, 03:22:37 PM »

Possibly. But I'd reject it because the story itself failed at being funny, not because the author told me it was supposed to be funny in the cover letter. Does that make sense?

Frex: I wouldn't say, "If you hadn't said this was a funny story, I might have liked it more." Some editors might, but yeesh. The cover letter would have to say something horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible for me to make a comment about something in it.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2010, 01:47:21 PM »

We're kind of getting off topic here, butL Really? I mean, I'm not questioning that happened, but that seems nuts to me.

If I read a story that was trying to be funny but didn't think it actually was, I'd reject it because I didn't think it was funny. I definitely wouldn't reject it because someone's cover letter suggested it was funny. (That said - it's probably sound advice not to describe stories in cover letters. I just can't imagine rejecting someone's story based on a disagreement I have with their description of it in their cover letter.)

I agree, but it actually happened so I guess at least person doesn't agree.  Me, I'd probably be one of the sort who doesn't read a cover letter until after reading the story--the story's gotta stand on it's own, right?  So the cover letter seems unimportant until you at least decide the story was good enough to finish reading--then maybe that'll be the tiebreaker between two stories you liked similarly.
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2010, 04:34:54 AM »

I went to Stony Brook for two and a half years before dropping out, so I was very stoked to see all the mentions of Long Island towns and haunts I'd been to.  I spent most of the story in a sort of nostalgic haze and came out of it determined to post a comment for a change.  Reading through the comments though, the haze faded.  I still have an overall positive impression of this story, but if I were asked to tell someone about it a few months from now I'd be at a loss.  Too many things pasted together, and the plot didn't add up with regards to the motivation of the characters.  So I know this sounds like I'm being mean and I'm sorry.  Just wanted to say that I was a Long Islander for a bit and loved the mentions, but only liked the story.
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2010, 01:12:52 AM »

I loved this one.  "Shitty John" is now one of my favorite characters.  LOL   Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2010, 02:24:48 PM »

I just recorded an intro for an upcoming story that I thought was badass, and so I called it badass.  ... I thought this story was pretty funny, so I called it hilarious. (Okay, I think I actually said "totally hilarious." Maybe it wasn't "totally," but I did think it was pretty hilarious.) But really - I think I only referred to it as funny once in the intro...now the badass thing a few weeks from now - okay, maybe I went overboard.

Perhaps going overboard would be the answer.  Repeatedly saying it was totally hilarious may have, through the use of irony, ended up with the effect that we know it's your reaction to the story, rather than the reaction you hope (or expect) to elicit from us.
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 05:51:13 AM »

I was struck with a thought I have had in various forms a number of times; but did not think of posting it and then my name appeared in the Squonk feedback and I kinda feel obliged

This week I walked up to two colleagues talking about identity

One was Zulu and spoke of a pure bloodline with no European or other ancestry; the other a Coloured with family from the Western Cape, a historic creole culture from the 1600's and onward. The conversation got onto notions of tribalism, culture, identity and the claims they bring to land rights, ownership and notions of who can be seen, who can call themselves African. In South Africa our debates of race, culture, and identity are rich and diverse.

But our default is plurality; none would claim there is only one culture; we have no welcome to South Africa as if its a singular. The story reminded me of a common feeling I get from America and the students and academics I encounter; that there is a simple choice between the modern and the traditional, between the American and the not. How strange it would be to live in a place where the choice is so binary; so possible to make.
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2010, 03:03:11 PM »

What a sweet, craptacular story.

I just recently got back in touch, thanks to Facebook, with a friend I went to college with 20 years ago. He's looking for work, still lives in the suburb where he grew up in, still single, and yes, he's Greek. I told him he should move up to where I live, and he said, nawww. He likes where he is.

Hmmmm...if I didn't know any better...
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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2010, 06:09:38 PM »

I just recently got back in touch, thanks to Facebook, with a friend I went to college with 20 years ago. He's looking for work, still lives in the suburb where he grew up in, still single, and yes, he's Greek. I told him he should move up to where I live, and he said, nawww. He likes where he is.

Hmmmm...if I didn't know any better...

You should at least send him this story.  Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2011, 05:57:54 PM »

The story itself was pretty much all that eytanz wrote.  An enjoyable, amusing tale.  It will stick with me, but I think that might be for wishful thinking about the poo-eating nanobots cleaning up the Sound!

sorry for bumping an old thread, but this story DID sick with me, and in the local paper today, I came across a story in the local paper about a Professor at Stony Brook University who received a $50k grant...

From the article:
"Stony Brook will use the grant to focus on an invention by Perena Gouma, a professor in the Department of Materials Science & Engineering, and graduate student Jusang Lee called nanogrids, which the university described as “miniaturized self-supported mats, similar to fishing nets” that float on water and use solar energy to rapidly decompose crude oil and other pollutants."

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/towns/long-island-now-1.1732330/stony-brook-gets-50g-research-grant-1.3234885

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