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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2011, 09:59:56 AM »

There's also 'His Master's Voice', Episode 227. Smiley

Slightly dog-centric but the cat's alright. Tongue And it gets to wear armor!
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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2011, 12:30:50 PM »

There is *cough* "Fetch" over in Podcastle.  (Although you can make a case that the cat there is slightly sinister.)

If you're okay heading outside of the podcasts, Kij Johnson has done several cat stories, including the novel "Fudoki," which was just lovely, in my opinion.
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2011, 03:39:06 PM »

I loved this.
Mur (and Marjorie, I suppose) had me at "some even seemed to come straight out of the walls."
Of course, that was when I knew exactly where this story was coming from and where it was going (but not how fast). Now it's just a matter of how silly it will get.
And it was perfect. Not too silly to completely reduce the quality of the writing, but just silly enough to make the nascent physicist in me gasp in mock horror. I loved seeing all the effects of quantum mechanics on a macro scale. Quantum tunneling, the uncertainty principle, even quantum entanglement!
And I especially like the idea of our thoughts having real power, and manifesting real objects. Did this story take place on the Discworld?
Although, my favorite part was the multiverse effect of infinite Schrödingers evoking infinite thought experiments with different animals.
"See? Let's take a box. And in the box we'll put a Loch Ness monster. (It's a really big box). Now nothing can enter the box or escape from it. In the box we put a jar of poison that will be released when a certain amount of a radioactive material decays. Now the thing is, we won't know if Nessy is dead until we open the box. But until we do, Nessy is both alive and dead at the same time."
Deal with that Mrs. S.
Also I liked how there are more around the end of the semester because the students all need to study....
It's funny for me because I'm a student and I have exams now.
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2011, 03:47:12 PM »

Argh. Another story mis-interpreting Schrödinger's thought experiment.

Still, cute and fluffy.
Cats generally are.
Falcons though, that's a whole other story. Don't ever try to pet a falcon.
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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2011, 08:49:54 PM »

Meh.  Not enough to bite onto for me.  Cop goes to cat lady's house, is confused.  Goes back, is confused.  Goes back, is confused, author ascends soap box regarding dog fights, cop is confused, criminals might die.  I found I could drift in and out of the story and not miss anything, and it seemed like the author needed a way to stop it, so she introduced the dog fighting near the end (please let me know if the dog fighting was introduced earlier during one of the parts where I was spacing out). 

I felt a little impatient since I knew the deal with the cats because I'm familiar with the Schrodinger thought experiment and I'm listening to an SF podcast, but I had to wait for the MC to catch up.  It's natural that the MC would take longer to catch on than the average listener, but I felt frustrated that the trick was clear to me, but not to the character I'm supposed to identify with. 

It needed some kind of tension beyond the MC struggling to understand something that is obvious to the listener. 
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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2011, 04:44:21 PM »

I married a physicist (10 years last week!), so I found myself appreciating this story from a unique perspective. My husband and I attended college together, albeit in different programs, so I was often in the company of hordes of physics majors and their professors. While other listeners are commenting on cats in boxes and what they thought of the plot, I can't get over how the author perfectly captured the personality of a room full of physicists.

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2011, 04:51:29 PM »

And I especially like the idea of our thoughts having real power, and manifesting real objects. Did this story take place on the Discworld?

In the study of his dark house on the edge of Time, Death looked at the wooden box. PERHAPS I SHALL TRY ONE MORE TIME, he said.
He reached down and lifted up a small kitten, patted it on the head, lowered it gently into the box, and closed the lid.
THE CAT DIES WHEN THE AIR RUNS OUT?
‘I suppose it might, sir,’ said Albert, his manservant. ‘But I don’t reckon that’s the point. If I understand it right, you don’t know if the cat’s dead or alive until you look at it.’
THINGS WILL HAVE COME TO A PRETTY PASS, ALBERT, IF I DID NOT KNOW WHETHER A THING WAS DEAD OR ALIVE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO AND LOOK.

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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2011, 06:06:10 PM »

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.
Oh yeah. Definitely. I'm running out of people who: a) I want to see a movie with and b) want to see a movie with me.
Also, that scene from The Last Hero did come to mind. Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2011, 08:49:32 PM »

...I can't get over how the author perfectly captured the personality of a room full of physicists.

Err... you mean the cats? Or Mrs S?
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« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2011, 09:44:39 AM »

...I can't get over how the author perfectly captured the personality of a room full of physicists.

Err... you mean the cats? Or Mrs S?

Just the tone of the piece. You think you know where the story is going, and then you have cats running through walls.

Also, some have commented that the ending came out of left field, but I've heard a Society of Physics Students meeting break out into Ogden Edsl's "Dead Puppies Aren't Much Fun" - I'm telling you, the ending was perfectly in keeping with the rest of the story.
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« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2011, 10:01:50 AM »

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.

Ha!  My brother's a physicist, and he's very hard to watch a movie with.  I hadn't considered that the two might be related.  Tongue 
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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2011, 10:13:38 PM »

I did love the story!  It made me smile and generally enjoy myself, even as I suspected others were being driven crazy by how physics were being presented.  But all I really expect out of a story like this is sillyness and insanity, which were both there in abundance.

It inspired me to make a bumper sticker, and I'm not sure if I can insert it here or not.  I'll try.
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« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2011, 10:15:49 PM »

Okay, and so I don't get in trouble, the cat pictures were from Ilkerender and Rusty Boxcars from Flikr; used in accordance with the licence.
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2011, 02:10:59 AM »

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.

Ha!  My brother's a physicist, and he's very hard to watch a movie with.  I hadn't considered that the two might be related.  Tongue 

My experience with physicists is that suspension of disbelief is a difficult concept for them to grasp. I find the same with Economists
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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2011, 12:20:45 PM »

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.

Ha!  My brother's a physicist, and he's very hard to watch a movie with.  I hadn't considered that the two might be related.  Tongue 

My experience with physicists is that suspension of disbelief is a difficult concept for them to grasp. I find the same with Economists
Have you ever watched an action movie with a soldier? Not fun.
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« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2011, 12:32:25 PM »

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.

Ha!  My brother's a physicist, and he's very hard to watch a movie with.  I hadn't considered that the two might be related.  Tongue 

My experience with physicists is that suspension of disbelief is a difficult concept for them to grasp. I find the same with Economists
Have you ever watched an action movie with a soldier? Not fun.

You know what's really obnoxious? Watching a fantasy movie with an elf. Those guys can be jerks.
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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2011, 04:57:22 PM »

I could recommend this story to all of my physicist friends, but I won't. If you've ever watched a movie with one, you know what I mean.

Ha!  My brother's a physicist, and he's very hard to watch a movie with.  I hadn't considered that the two might be related.  Tongue 

My experience with physicists is that suspension of disbelief is a difficult concept for them to grasp. I find the same with Economists
Have you ever watched an action movie with a soldier? Not fun.

You know what's really obnoxious? Watching a fantasy movie with an elf. Those guys can be jerks.

Elves at least stay down when you punch 'em. Never try punching a troll...
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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2011, 07:12:03 PM »

watching sci fi with aliens is pretty annoying as well, although that's nothing on watching Twilight with a real vampire. To this day I don't know how I survived that.
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« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2011, 08:48:58 PM »

watching sci fi with aliens is pretty annoying as well, although that's nothing on watching Twilight with a real vampire. To this day I don't know how I survived that.

That must have sucked.
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« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2011, 08:02:26 AM »

I loved this.
Mur (and Marjorie, I suppose) had me at "some even seemed to come straight out of the walls."
Of course, that was when I knew exactly where this story was coming from and where it was going (but not how fast). Now it's just a matter of how silly it will get.
And it was perfect. Not too silly to completely reduce the quality of the writing, but just silly enough to make the nascent physicist in me gasp in mock horror. I loved seeing all the effects of quantum mechanics on a macro scale. Quantum tunneling, the uncertainty principle, even quantum entanglement!
And I especially like the idea of our thoughts having real power, and manifesting real objects. Did this story take place on the Discworld?
Although, my favorite part was the multiverse effect of infinite Schrödingers evoking infinite thought experiments with different animals.
"See? Let's take a box. And in the box we'll put a Loch Ness monster. (It's a really big box). Now nothing can enter the box or escape from it. In the box we put a jar of poison that will be released when a certain amount of a radioactive material decays. Now the thing is, we won't know if Nessy is dead until we open the box. But until we do, Nessy is both alive and dead at the same time."
Deal with that Mrs. S.
Also I liked how there are more around the end of the semester because the students all need to study....
It's funny for me because I'm a student and I have exams now.
Perfect! What Max said  Grin
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