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Author Topic: EP287: A Taste of Time  (Read 14829 times)
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2011, 08:16:52 AM »

If you kind of liked this story (I did) you would love the book Replay by Ken Grimwood. Best time travel novel I’ve ever read.

Seriously, check it out.

"Jeff Winston, a failing 43-year-old radio journalist, dies and wakes up in his 18-year-old body in 1963 with his memories of the next 25 years intact."

This story reminded me of it. Well done.

Reminded me of the recent movie "17 Again".  Which is much more funny than the previews made it look.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2011, 09:10:15 AM »

A nice story. Nothing mind-boggling or never seen before, but I still enjoyed it.

There's just one thing that bothers me, and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet. If this story was first published in 2004, how did the author know about the BP oil spill, which was last year?
Yes, the story mentions an oil spill in the gulf of Mexico, but I doubt that it's a reference to the 1980 spill, the years don't add up right.

I came up with two explanations:
1. The interesting one, which states that the story is somewhat autobiographical in the sense that the author has her own bottle of time travel wine.
2. The boring one, which states that the author touched up the story for a more "contemporary" audience.
I will be very disappointed if it's the latter, and not the former.

There's a third option, which is that the author happened to include the oil spill in the story in 2004 (or earlier), and the BP disaster last year matching it is simple coincidence.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2011, 01:25:32 PM »

Plus, and this is gross and silly, but accords with the story logic; by taking the last drink, the protagonist is killing herself and her mother (remember how she always shows up in the new time holding the bottle? think about that for a moment).

Woah!  I hadn't thought of the bottle appearing with her, but you're right unless the "magic" makes the bottle disappear at the last drop.  I keep thinking that there's no sign of Jane's mind forgetting or matching her biological age so imagine how depressing it will be for Jane to be a 100+ year old fetus or infant.  She'll probably kill herself as soon as she gets the chance.
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2011, 03:06:51 PM »

A nice story. Nothing mind-boggling or never seen before, but I still enjoyed it.

There's just one thing that bothers me, and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet. If this story was first published in 2004, how did the author know about the BP oil spill, which was last year?
Yes, the story mentions an oil spill in the gulf of Mexico, but I doubt that it's a reference to the 1980 spill, the years don't add up right.

I came up with two explanations:
1. The interesting one, which states that the story is somewhat autobiographical in the sense that the author has her own bottle of time travel wine.
2. The boring one, which states that the author touched up the story for a more "contemporary" audience.
I will be very disappointed if it's the latter, and not the former.

There's a third option, which is that the author happened to include the oil spill in the story in 2004 (or earlier), and the BP disaster last year matching it is simple coincidence.

I dunno.... it was pretty specific. Time and place.
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2011, 06:36:42 PM »

There's a third option, which is that the author happened to include the oil spill in the story in 2004 (or earlier), and the BP disaster last year matching it is simple coincidence.

I dunno.... it was pretty specific. Time and place.

Coincidences do happen. Even wildly improbable ones.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2011, 08:57:13 AM »

Agreed. Plus, some coincidences have significantly higher probability factors. For instance, I nearly guarantee there will be an earthquake and resulting tsunami that will erase entire islands in Malaysia and Hawaii within the next five years. Precognition? No, I can just read history.
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2011, 09:09:10 AM »

Agreed. Plus, some coincidences have significantly higher probability factors. For instance, I nearly guarantee there will be an earthquake and resulting tsunami that will erase entire islands in Malaysia and Hawaii within the next five years. Precognition? No, I can just read history.

Or you're about to enact some sinister plan.

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2011, 07:41:21 AM »

Jane makes a comment, maybe 2/3 of the way through the story, about missing family. It struck me that she didn't have children- and that the subject of children never came up.  Of course, many people never want to have kids, and others can't, and presumably Jane was in one of those categories. 

But Jane not having kids also avoids a problem: going back in time to before her children were born would (potentially, at least) scrub them from existence.  That's something of a horrible thought to a parent.


Also, yeah.  "Replay."  I read that ages ago and enjoyed it.  Lots of similarities with this story.
 
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2011, 09:31:10 AM »

A nice story. Nothing mind-boggling or never seen before, but I still enjoyed it.

There's just one thing that bothers me, and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet. If this story was first published in 2004, how did the author know about the BP oil spill, which was last year?


I caught this too, and figured it was just a typo on the year. 
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2011, 09:42:06 AM »

A nice story. Nothing mind-boggling or never seen before, but I still enjoyed it.

There's just one thing that bothers me, and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet. If this story was first published in 2004, how did the author know about the BP oil spill, which was last year?


I caught this too, and figured it was just a typo on the year. 

It is not a typo.
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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2011, 06:23:50 PM »

My only complaint about this story is that it should have run on PodCastle. Science fiction should at least try to have a logical explanation for the fantastical elements. Magic time-traveling wine = fantasy.

True enough, but Escape Pod can run a fantasy story if they want to. 

Ocicat is of course correct that Escape Pod *can* run a fantasy story if it wants to.  The editors who do all the work have certainly earned that prerogative. 

But I would like to respectfully suggest that they consider that if someone has their heart set on seafood, has been thinking about seafood all week, and goes to a great seafood restaurant for dinner on Saturday night, that person would be understandably frustrated to order lobster and be handed a plate of rare/bloody steak, no matter how much a steak lover might like that particular steak.

To stretch the analogy a bit further, I get extra frustrated when this happens at Escape Pod because I don't discover that I'm getting a fantasy story until I have already invested in listening to the story.   

I wish the editors would please please please identify stories like this as magic/fantasy right up front so that those of us who greatly dislike that genre can skip the episode. 







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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2011, 07:10:58 PM »

You're assuming that the editor thought this was a fantasy piece and ran it as such. Genre is in the eyes of the beholder sometimes, and I doubt our esteemed leader would try to sneak in something she didn't think was appropriate. It's a bit callous of you to think she would. Are you always so blindly
judgmental? Because without her, this is all empty and insulting supposition.

Mind you, I'm back on my diet and have given up my daily cigar, so my view is presently a bit skewed.
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2011, 09:13:28 PM »

time travel stories are SF to me.  Always will be.  Yes, that includes "Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2011, 10:07:15 PM »

time travel stories are SF to me.  Always will be.  Yes, that includes "Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"

but but but, that's... y'know... medieval and stuff!!
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2011, 08:30:46 AM »

Time travel and superheroes are odd ducks in the genre definitions.  For me, generally, I call a time travel story fantasy or SF depending on the origin of time travel.  In "Back to the Future" time travel was done with a machine made by a scientist studying time travel, so I consider that SF.  In this story a bottle appears that seems to be both magic in origin and method of operation.  Seems fantasy to me.  I've written a story with time travel where the method is never revealed, always happening off-camera to non-POV characters.  That one I'd call either SF or fantasy (generally depending on what market I'm sending to).

But I can't say I'm really worked up about it.  If EP runs the occasional fantasy story I'm not going to have a conniption fit. 

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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2011, 06:43:23 AM »

My very first thought, when she realized that she was back in 1999, was that the back episodes of geek fu action grip were still available then!
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2011, 06:45:29 AM »

My only complaint about this story is that it should have run on PodCastle. Science fiction should at least try to have a logical explanation for the fantastical elements. Magic time-traveling wine = fantasy.

I can think of no story that has run on Escape Pod that is not fantasy
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2011, 08:43:46 AM »

My only complaint about this story is that it should have run on PodCastle. Science fiction should at least try to have a logical explanation for the fantastical elements. Magic time-traveling wine = fantasy.

I can think of no story that has run on Escape Pod that is not fantasy

Huh 
Are you using a very broad definition of fantasy that includes all science fiction within it?
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2011, 09:13:54 AM »

I can think of no story that has run on Escape Pod that is not fantasy

Huh  
Are you using a very broad definition of fantasy that includes all science fiction within it?


Must be, at the very least, if not "all fiction".
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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2011, 12:32:53 AM »

I really enjoyed the story. It took a while (and was just about ready to puke when she got Robert after winning the lottery), but the story really redeemed itself by the end, painting a great portrait of someone who is never satisfied with what they have. The story starts with thoughts of suicide, and ends with a symbolic suicide. Jane just can't seem to be happy, no matter what she does.
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