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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 12:20:33 PM »

Ok, I'll join in the fun Smiley

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.59

Spindaddy and I can hold down the social moderate end of the see saw to balance the rest of you guys out. Wink These tests never really know what to do with me because I hold several (stereotypically) opposite viewpoints, which incidentally is also why I never know who to vote for... Undecided
haha Throw your horns up if you are a moderate! \m/

I tend to vote to maintain a balance. It's kinda dumb, but in my twisted little world, I think by keeping the liberals and conversatives in balance means that neither can truly pursue their agendas because neither side has enough of a majority. Thus, when rich white guys spend more time fighting each other, I'm able to live a freer happier life.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 04:49:33 PM »

My scores:

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85

Someone should map all these and give us a forum political graph.  And if results continue as they have been, we need only show one quadrant!
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 05:42:32 PM »

Someone should map all these and give us a forum political graph.  And if results continue as they have been, we need only show one quadrant!

Very interesting...I'd like to see that , but I'm afraid I wouldn't know how.  If someone does, here are my scores to add  Grin
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

Still in that same 'ole quadrant!
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 08:18:52 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2011, 08:25:22 PM »

Awesome Kibitzer, thanks Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2011, 08:30:41 PM »

Sadly, I find myself all alone in another quadrant. Sniff. Not telling all you free-wheeling radicals which one, lest you leap the fence into my fabulous gated community of one to part me from my capitalist spoils.
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2011, 08:33:26 PM »

Sadly, I find myself all alone in another quadrant. Sniff. Not telling all you free-wheeling radicals which one, lest you leap the fence into my fabulous gated community of one to part me from my capitalist spoils.

What if we tell you it's for the children?
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2011, 09:28:29 PM »

I did it yesterday and seem to have forgotten to post - I blame the jetlag. I don't remember the exact scores, but they were both pretty close to -4.5
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2011, 11:14:38 PM »

Sadly, I find myself all alone in another quadrant. Sniff. Not telling all you free-wheeling radicals which one, lest you leap the fence into my fabulous gated community of one to part me from my capitalist spoils.

Aww c'mon Turtle! I'll re-do the graph.
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2011, 12:30:48 AM »

Nice one, Kibitzer! Thanks!

Interesting how graphics can bring things to light. I hadn't noted before how many of you are in that centre column. Interesting.
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2011, 12:36:34 AM »

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85

Impressive, I know. You can touch it if you want Wink.

Excuse me while I whip this out...

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87
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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2011, 01:00:34 AM »

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85

Impressive, I know. You can touch it if you want Wink.

Excuse me while I whip this out...

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

Dude.

Wow.
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2011, 06:53:14 AM »

Oooh!  Oooh!  Me! Me!
Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90

Pretty much where I thought I'd end up.
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2011, 07:58:46 AM »

Oh, it''s nice to see everybody posting scores!  Yay!

Here's mine:

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82

Fowlie, I noted in the intro that my challenge would mostly play out my way to USians, but I see I still beat you out.  I am not a communist, obv, though, so Paladin beats me out.  However, there are hardly any communists in the U.S. and more that say they are than actually are, so I felt pretty safe in my assessment.  And I hedged anyway with the "chances are" because there's always the one exception.  By the large, according to the graph, I'll still fall to the left of most. 

I'd like to see what it takes to get higher than -8.75 on the economic left/right, since no one has managed it so far.  Maybe the test tops out there?
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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2011, 08:13:14 AM »

So, did it again. Ended up more economically left than last time, but I can't think of what I said differently. Maybe I feel more likely to strongly agree or disagree with stuff than I do in the evening. Here goes:

Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05

If feel there were some cases where my literal nature got in the way of the quiz: "What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state." - that's not true; if what they are doing is planning a terrorist attack, or watching child pornography, or engaged in a murder-suicide pact, I think the state is entitled to some level of interest.
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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2011, 08:24:05 AM »

Nice one, Kibitzer! Thanks!

Interesting how graphics can bring things to light. I hadn't noted before how many of you are in that centre column. Interesting.

I notice that how the graph is presented makes terms like "moderate" or "centrist" very, very different.  Kibitzer's graph makes a nice little "center" right in the middle of the square that we mostly seem to hover around, and suddenly I'm (mostly) a moderate!  Of course, some of my neighbors in physical space would, if they knew, think me dangerously radical and extreme--which I'm not, not by a long shot, there's a whole bunch of space for me to move into more extremes.

So, is "center" the middle of the graph (which graph??), some platonic ideal of neutral political opinion (I can't believe I just typed that phrase, my brain might explode trying to parse it out) or is "center" statistical center, and if so of what sample?  Or....

Or, what I mean to say is, moderate and center are actually pretty meaningless terms. Lots of people claim them as labels without really thinking what it might mean, beyond "well I think my beliefs are reasonable so they must be moderate."

Sorry for incoherence, caffeine is only just beginning to reach my bloodstream.
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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2011, 09:04:56 AM »

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I am not a communist, obv, though, so Paladin beats me out.  However, there are hardly any communists in the U.S. and more that say they are than actually are, so I felt pretty safe in my assessment.

Well, it depends on how you define "communist." Marxist thought is a spectrum of ideas and opinions. I think there are plenty of people in the US who could qualify as some measure of socialist (I count myself among them). And then of course, communism has been verboten in America for so long, I think the average American would have a hard time recognizing or defining actual Marxist thought.
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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2011, 09:21:33 AM »

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I am not a communist, obv, though, so Paladin beats me out.  However, there are hardly any communists in the U.S. and more that say they are than actually are, so I felt pretty safe in my assessment.

Well, it depends on how you define "communist." Marxist thought is a spectrum of ideas and opinions. I think there are plenty of people in the US who could qualify as some measure of socialist (I count myself among them). And then of course, communism has been verboten in America for so long, I think the average American would have a hard time recognizing or defining actual Marxist thought.

ElPal self-id'd as a communist.  That's why I used the term.  I do not self id as a communist, nor do I think anyone can peg me as one, for all that I'm down with to each/for each.
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2011, 11:40:34 AM »

Fowlie, I noted in the intro that my challenge would mostly play out my way to USians, but I see I still beat you out.

Well, insofar as it's a contest (and any implication that I ever thought it was was solidly tongue-in-cheek), that's only true for the economic axis. I've long thought I'm more economically conservative than socially (though my score would seem not to bear that out, at least not to the degree I believed it).

"What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state." - that's not true; if what they are doing is planning a terrorist attack, or watching child pornography, or engaged in a murder-suicide pact, I think the state is entitled to some level of interest.

Yes, that question could have been more specific, though I think* that, "what goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults" is, at least in North America, fairly well known to be a euphemism for "sexual activity".  If it had been worded "Sexual activity that goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state," would that have changed your answer? 'Cause that's what they meant.

Inspired by (but not really related to) hautdesert's remarks on the centre of the graph and being moderate
I'd be interested to see what correlation there is, if any, between the results of this test in the general population and the degree to which the respondents a) read and b) read speculative fiction.



*If I'm wrong about this, I'd like to know.
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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2011, 07:00:09 PM »

"What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state." - that's not true; if what they are doing is planning a terrorist attack, or watching child pornography, or engaged in a murder-suicide pact, I think the state is entitled to some level of interest.

Yes, that question could have been more specific, though I think* that, "what goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults" is, at least in North America, fairly well known to be a euphemism for "sexual activity".  If it had been worded "Sexual activity that goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state," would that have changed your answer? 'Cause that's what they meant.

Anytime I read "two consenting adults in a bedroom", I always imagine that someone is talking a couple of people dressed up as cartoon characters beating on each other with neon colored sex toys between three and four feet long and perhaps engaging in other activities that have the potential for a rather embarrassing hospital visit.

Personally speaking it's my bedroom. Stay the F out of it.* I don't care if my neighbor claims that I'm building a bomb, watching questionable porn or planning on some other abhorrent practice. There HAS to be a point and place where a person can go and not be scrutinized by society. Privacy is a basic right. No matter what my neighbor thinks, 90% of the time I'm in my bedroom all I'm doing is reading a book or sleeping. Ok, ok, there are other activities that take place there, but don't worry, it's between consenting adults.



* Unless of course you are a mid twenties co-ed with loose morals, an oral fetish and have a fondness for neon colors
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