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Reply #175 on: May 18, 2007, 01:00:49 AM
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Cute animal pictures. The internet equivalent of a group hug. :)

Ha!  As it happens, the fact that one of them is a Corgi morally obliges me to absolve all sin.  >8->

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Reply #176 on: May 18, 2007, 07:39:06 AM
And one pointed remark - to say you as a Christian only follow the New Testament is exactly my earlier point about selective belief - if there are a few lines of the New Testament you don't like, why not just skip those?  I don't recall Moses telling us that we could follow 8 commandments if we found two of them annoying?

Thanks for the explanations.

Personal View :

However I didn't just pick the New Testament.  The New suppasses the Old.  Have you seen the Chronicles of Nania?  If so, think of the death of Aslan.  A deeper law, with the older law being broken assunder.

This attitude of respect, and learning from the Old Testament is required as basis for understanding the New.  As someone said earlier the New Testament refers back to Old Testament, so it's required as a context.


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Reply #177 on: May 18, 2007, 07:45:17 AM
" The thread is about three words from being locked; but I won't say which three, and my intrinsic faith in humankind keeps me from doing anything just yet."

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Cute animal pictures. The internet equivalent of a group hug. :)

Nice! Big hearted. Respect.


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Reply #178 on: May 18, 2007, 11:51:21 AM
It looks like a few more posts have happened since I was last here. :P

I'll skip the logic vs religion argument.

Someone asked for more information about my foster parent experience.  I'll post it in another thread to keep this one from going into yet another topic.

Getting back to tolerance....

I think the problem is really very basic.  If person A sees person B harming person C, is it OK for person A to interfere? What if persons B and C don't agree that any harm is being done?   What if persons B and C are the same person, i.e. what if A sees B harming themself or about to harm themself?  Again, what if B doesn't see things the same way?  It's all about perspective.  What A considers harm, B considers normal.  If A allows B to continue without interference, then A is being tolerant. If A interferes, then A is not being tolerant.

Getting back to relative morality....

Someone mentioned that a person with relative morality doesn't really have any morality since they can change their views at any time in order to justify their actions.  I would agree that anyone who would do that has no real sense of morality.  They are engaged in non-rational decision making: making an emotional decision and then seeking evidence to justify their position.
I think it's important to have a sense of conviction about what is right and wrong - a sense of morality.  But I think it's important that a sense of morality be based on principles.  A set of rules for what is right and wrong that you can't rationally justify is just an arbitrary set of rules.  And for the record, I don't consider any version of "because I said so" as a rational justification.




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Reply #179 on: May 18, 2007, 12:04:12 PM
Sometimes I wonder if the author of this strip is secretly hanging out on these boards.
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Reply #180 on: May 18, 2007, 01:12:52 PM
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Cute animal pictures. The internet equivalent of a group hug. :)

Ha!  As it happens, the fact that one of them is a Corgi morally obliges me to absolve all sin.  >8->

(My dog and I:)


You look quite rugged there, Mr. Eley.

Obviously, you should pose with dogs more often.  I'll pass that on to Ms. Blackwell.