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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2007, 10:49:14 AM » |
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I found many of the plausibility ratings highly implausible.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2007, 11:59:18 AM » |
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The Top 5 Reasons This List is Flawed: 1) C3P0 is not in the top 20 2) Optimus Prime at 38, are they NUTS?  ? 3) MecaGodzilla is even on the list. 4) HAL 9000 is not #1 5) That HAL 9000 is even on the list. He's an AI not a robot!
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 03:47:42 PM » |
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is Marvin on it? I have not had the time to look at it yet but ya just wanted to know
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 04:56:47 PM » |
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is Marvin on it? I have not had the time to look at it yet but ya just wanted to know
Yes, at number 18... at least he made the list, but their rankings are pretty ridiculous, imho. The Fembots from Austin Powers even made the top 25. Kitt outranks both C3PO and R2D2. That's just heinous. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 05:04:02 PM » |
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is Marvin on it? I have not had the time to look at it yet but ya just wanted to know
Yes, at number 18... at least he made the list, but their rankings are pretty ridiculous, imho. The Fembots from Austin Powers even made the top 25. Kitt outranks both C3PO and R2D2. That's just heinous. I can't believe the stupid battle droids outranked C3-PO. He's waaaaaaaaaaaay tougher than those crap battle droids. Yeah, kind of a funny list. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 05:11:22 PM » |
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I rarely find myself in agreement with most of the contents of this sort of list.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 05:12:07 PM » |
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I rarely find myself in agreement with most of the contents of this sort of list.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2008, 01:14:59 AM » |
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is Marvin on it? I have not had the time to look at it yet but ya just wanted to know
Yes, at number 18... at least he made the list, but their rankings are pretty ridiculous, imho. Kitt outranks both C3PO and R2D2. That's just heinous. glad he made it he was my favorite character in the books and was one of the only redeeming qualities of the latest movie Kitt was on it? Kitt was an AI last I checked not a robot there is a difference right? or am I just making that up? dont get me wrong Kitt is a sweet car but not really a robot as I understand it but I could be wrong about that |
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2008, 01:18:34 AM » |
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Kitt was on it? Kitt was an AI last I checked not a robot there is a difference right? or am I just making that up? dont get me wrong Kitt is a sweet car but not really a robot as I understand it but I could be wrong about that From the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: robot |ˈrōˌbät; ˈrōbət| noun a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, esp. one programmable by a computer. • (esp. in science fiction) a machine resembling a human being and able to replicate certain human movements and functions automatically. I'd say Kitt fits the overall definition. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2008, 09:18:44 PM » |
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No Tom Servo. No Crow T. Robot.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 09:32:32 PM » |
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As for AI vs. robots, isn't every intelligent robot essentially an AI? Seems like the differences are largely cosmetic.
When I saw Data on that list, I got to wondering... at any point, during the 7 seasons of ST:TNG, does anyone use the word "robot" to describe him? He's always an "android". Interesting that the show made such a choice of terminology.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2008, 11:20:03 PM » |
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As for AI vs. robots, isn't every intelligent robot essentially an AI? Seems like the differences are largely cosmetic.
When I saw Data on that list, I got to wondering... at any point, during the 7 seasons of ST:TNG, does anyone use the word "robot" to describe him? He's always an "android". Interesting that the show made such a choice of terminology.
An android is a robot in human shape (like Data and Lore). A robot is not necessarily so. |
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2008, 08:14:01 AM » |
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Would Robocop count? He's more of a cyborg?
I would have to say my #1 robot of all time is Data from TNG. He's stronger than Worf and smarter than any Vulcan. Something to which we can all aspire.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2008, 09:29:25 AM » |
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Would Robocop count? He's more of a cyborg?
I would have to say my #1 robot of all time is Data from TNG. He's stronger than Worf and smarter than any Vulcan. Something to which we can all aspire.
Robocop would be a cyborg, not a robot. ED-whatever from the same movie is a robot. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2008, 10:35:50 AM » |
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OK, my geeky question for Star Trek geeks: Does the Doctor from ST: Voyager count as a robot?
You could say "no, he's just an AI that projects a human form". But the line gets murky in later seasons when he acquires a "mobile emitter" that permits him to be fully ambulatory.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2008, 12:09:15 PM » |
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OK, my geeky question for Star Trek geeks: Does the Doctor from ST: Voyager count as a robot?
You could say "no, he's just an AI that projects a human form". But the line gets murky in later seasons when he acquires a "mobile emitter" that permits him to be fully ambulatory.
It was my impression that they murkified the line intentionally... they wanted to continue exploring the Velveteen Rabbit themes that started with Data in TNG, and carried forward in the story lines about the Borg (Hugh and Seven) re-acquiring their humanity, as well as the stories about purely holographic people. Basically, if you have an AI, and it can control matter... isn't that still within that definition?
a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, esp. one programmable by a computer.
And if it is using intelligence to decide what series of actions need to be taken... how is that indistiguishable from a human? (Other than the fact that a human needs a lot of really inefficient "middlemen" between hir intelligence and the completion of the actions.) |
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 02:01:03 PM » |
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As for AI vs. robots, isn't every intelligent robot essentially an AI? Seems like the differences are largely cosmetic.
When I saw Data on that list, I got to wondering... at any point, during the 7 seasons of ST:TNG, does anyone use the word "robot" to describe him? He's always an "android". Interesting that the show made such a choice of terminology.
An android is a robot in human shape (like Data and Lore). A robot is not necessarily so. Looking back, I phrased the above rather clumsily. I believe I can modify it to clarify: "Androids" are a subset of "robots", being the type of robot designed to resemble humans. |
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 06:06:20 PM » |
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OK, my geeky question for Star Trek geeks: Does the Doctor from ST: Voyager count as a robot?
You could say "no, he's just an AI that projects a human form". But the line gets murky in later seasons when he acquires a "mobile emitter" that permits him to be fully ambulatory.
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2008, 06:10:27 PM » |
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This Star Trek Geek's opinion: Voyager sucks!
YMMV
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