Escape Artists
The Lounge at the End of the Universe => Gallimaufry => Topic started by: Russell Nash on December 18, 2007, 10:29:35 PM
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The UK has decided to ban imitation Samurai swords (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7139724.stm).
I just don't know where to begin on this one.
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Well, I for one am all for it. I do not think people should have a right to carry weapons in public.
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The problem with this is that they don't actually ban Samurai Swords, just fake ones. So if you had a real one you'd be fine.
The latest Bugle (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/podcasts/the_bugle/) has a bit on this.
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I think you might have missed the bigger story. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7150644.stm)
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The problem with this is that they don't actually ban Samurai Swords, just fake ones. So if you had a real one you'd be fine.
The latest Bugle (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/podcasts/the_bugle/) has a bit on this.
I don't know the Bugle - though it looks like something worth checking out. But I think the difference between real swords is that they are expensive imports mostly used by collectors, and the fake swords which are mostly used as an actual weapon. So I think the reasoning is that the fake swords really have no legitimate use.
But as far as I am concerned, the fewer swords (or guns, or grenade launchers) out there, the better. This is a step in the right direction, even if it is a silly one.
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I say this is goofball government meddling.
From the article:
The Home Office estimates there have been some 80 attacks in recent years involving Samurai-style blades, leading to at least five deaths.
Five deaths in at least two years. How many deaths caused by cars, alcohol, soccer matches, bathtubs, tobacco...
I would say that the swords do have a legitimate use. They are beautiful and people like them. People like to put them in those pretentious little stands. Besides, according to the article:
However, ministers say they have recognised there is a special case for exemptions for genuine collectors of the original weapons and acknowledge there is a legitimate role for the blades in some forms of martial arts.
So you can have a sword if you DO use it as a weapon.
Are imitation western-style swords already banned?
Incidentally, here in Japan the fake swords are fine, but real ones are mostly illegal.
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I say this is goofball government meddling.
From the article:
The Home Office estimates there have been some 80 attacks in recent years involving Samurai-style blades, leading to at least five deaths.
Five deaths in at least two years. How many deaths caused by cars, alcohol, soccer matches, bathtubs, tobacco...
Well, if it were up to me, I'd outlaw at least two things on that list (which is one of the reasons I think it's a good idea that it's not up to me. I'm way too authoritarian to be allowed to be in government).
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Five deaths in at least two years. How many deaths caused by cars, alcohol, soccer matches, bathtubs, tobacco...
Well, if it were up to me, I'd outlaw at least two things on that list (which is one of the reasons I think it's a good idea that it's not up to me. I'm way too authoritarian to be allowed to be in government).
You really hate Football(soccer) hooligans don't you?
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In the wrong hands, samurai swords are dangerous weapons
--Vernon Coaker, Home Office minister
Yes, in the hands of actual samurai, swords are harmless.
Future British headlines:
2015: Due to a recent epidemic of injurious whackings, all blunt instruments will be banned. This includes soccer balls and bathtubs, which are considered to be blunt by many experts.
2019: Due to numerous cases of blindness caused by gouging, all spoons and spoon-like implements will be banned starting next year. The practice commonly known as "spooning" will also be banned, just to be on the safe side.
2025: Due to an alarming increase of bloody noses, fists measuring more than six inches across are to be banned. All persons in possession of such fists will be required to surrender their pinkie fingers on the first of the year.
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My point with all of this was two fold. First, all of these idiots running around thinking they're a ninja. We've already had someone link to a list of idiots with katanas stories. Second, I bought a real long sword at auction for $35. It hangs on my wall in case any evangelicals come to my door. Since I'm not trained to be sword fighter, this heavy blade is far more deadly. Also it's far stronger than those replica swords. And it's legal in Britain on two counts.
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i am a bit down on this :(
agane its the idiots spoling the fun for the rest of us ,
in the past(and hopfuly future if i can find a groop) have practesed wester matal arts and suspect this bit of legislashon may the begining off the end for the study of anchent wepons in the uk.
i am also cureus as to how thay are going to deside whitch are fake and whitch are real swords, just ban cheap ones?
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Russell, you are suggesting that you think people should not be idiots of their own volition? But then what would lawmakers do all day? If not for laws like this, politicians would have to get productive jobs that contribute to society! They'd lose their dignity and their lavish pensions. Better that we all be buffoons and wait for the professionals to tell us how to avoid impaling ourselves.
I bought a real long sword at auction for $35. It hangs on my wall in case any evangelicals come to my door. Since I'm not trained to be sword fighter, this heavy blade is far more deadly.
:o :o :o
What if the UPS guy happens to be an evangelical?!
UPS Guy: *knock knock knock*
Russel: Hello?
UPS Guy: Package for Russel Nash. I just need your signature.
Russel: Okay. Thanks.
UPS Guy: Thank you. God bless.
Russel: IEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
UPS Guy: AHH! What are you doing?!
Russel: Die, theist scum!! *Hack, Splat, Splat*
UPS Guy: OW! Please, stop! For the love of God!!
Russel: You just don't get it, do you?
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last year a friend of mine lost a relative to a drunken idiot with one of these things, their not talking about real swords that go for thousands, their not talking about taking them away from martial artists. They are talking about making it so you can't pick up one of these deadly weapons for £20 or £30 on a high street shop.
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last year a friend of mine lost a relative to a drunken idiot with one of these things, their not talking about real swords that go for thousands, their not talking about taking them away from martial artists. They are talking about making it so you can't pick up one of these deadly weapons for £20 or £30 on a high street shop.
The article said what, five deaths in two years? How many died from steel pipes in that time? Do we need to take away all plumbing supplies? What about tire irons? Will only licensed professionals be allowed to change tires, so we can keep these weopons under control? Steak knives? Dogs? Chains? Rope? Steel-toed work shoes? Lumber? Christmas trees? Where does it end? The world is a dangerous place.
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Don't I just love the American's condescension on this one...
The law has not been passed through Parliament, has only just entered discussion and has come out of The Home Office... So far this one comes under "Dog Barks" and I'll be much surprised if this manages to get through. The British Parliament has been wary of banning random dangerous things since a fiasco in the '90s called The Dangerous Dogs Act (don't ask).
And yet here we are with "future British headlines" and "I just don't know where to begin on this one.".
It is the job of the Home Office to suggest legislation on things that may represent a hazard, it is the job of Parliament, and the Justice department to say "NO" to the Home Office. So far, so good...
While we're at it tho, I'd like to point (http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40001334/ (http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40001334/)) out that Britain's GSI statistics for homicide are approaching 40* lower than those in the United States. I am quite, quite happy to live in a society where we are forced to criminalise replicas, so that the police can justify using reasonable force on someone who is in possession of a toy gun (as the only gun they can get). This issue would obviously never emerge in the US, because your criminals have an easy, ready supply of the top-trump of offensive weapons.
So please, take your condescension away.
Thanks
Simon
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Don't I just love the American's condescension on this one...
The law has not been passed through Parliament, has only just entered discussion and has come out of The Home Office... So far this one comes under "Dog Barks" and I'll be much surprised if this manages to get through. The British Parliament has been wary of banning random dangerous things since a fiasco in the '90s called The Dangerous Dogs Act (don't ask).
And yet here we are with "future British headlines" and "I just don't know where to begin on this one.".
It is the job of the Home Office to suggest legislation on things that may represent a hazard, it is the job of Parliament, and the Justice department to say "NO" to the Home Office. So far, so good...
While we're at it tho, I'd like to point (http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40001334/ (http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40001334/)) out that Britain's GSI statistics for homicide are approaching 40* lower than those in the United States. I am quite, quite happy to live in a society where we are forced to criminalise replicas, so that the police can justify using reasonable force on someone who is in possession of a toy gun (as the only gun they can get). This issue would obviously never emerge in the US, because your criminals have an easy, ready supply of the top-trump of offensive weapons.
So please, take your condescension away.
Thanks
Simon
Excuse us for not understanding the intricacies of British law. The headline on BBC said, "Imitation Samurai swords are to be banned after a spate of attacks in the UK, say ministers". It's not our fault if the BBC is unclear.
Our disbelief was aimed at outlawing something that has killed five people in two years. You can't tell me that isn't a complete and total waste of time.
As far as the gun thing goes (and I won't mention the London shootings from this summer). US law is totally out of touch with reality. The assault weopon ban lasped this year and police deaths by gunfire have gone through the roof.
There needs to be a miidle ground between home defense grenade launchers and nobody being able to get anything more dangerous than a plastic knife.
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is it illegal in the US to carry a sword on you? like anywhere? just out in the open...?
does it have to be registered?
i want a reverse blade sword.
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OK, I split off the gun stuff. It was a little messy, because lots of people covered both thoughts in one post. If something relevant to this discussion got taken away with the gun stuff, feel free to repost here.
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is it illegal in the US to carry a sword on you? like anywhere? just out in the open...?
does it have to be registered?
i want a reverse blade sword.
Yes.
In fact you can legally carry a gun out in the open with out a permit.
You are totally with in your rights to walk down the road with a pair of 6-shooters looking like John Wayne.
But don't be surprised when the cops surround you with guns drawn and book you with a dozen other crimes that aren't "Carrying a gun in public."
On the other hand, there are laws against having blades over 6", so no dressing like a samurai.
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Yes.
In fact you can legally carry a gun out in the open with out a permit.
You are totally with in your rights to walk down the road with a pair of 6-shooters looking like John Wayne.
But don't be surprised when the cops surround you with guns drawn and book you with a dozen other crimes that aren't "Carrying a gun in public."
On the other hand, there are laws against having blades over 6", so no dressing like a samurai.
Depends on where you live. In New York, for example, you need a permit for a handgun. In New York City you can't carry any kind of firearm without a permit.
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Here is The Economist on this issue
http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10286918 (http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10286918)
I always like their perspective.
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Yes.
In fact you can legally carry a gun out in the open with out a permit.
You are totally with in your rights to walk down the road with a pair of 6-shooters looking like John Wayne.
But don't be surprised when the cops surround you with guns drawn and book you with a dozen other crimes that aren't "Carrying a gun in public."
On the other hand, there are laws against having blades over 6", so no dressing like a samurai.
Depends on where you live. In New York, for example, you need a permit for a handgun. In New York City you can't carry any kind of firearm without a permit.
What kind of permit? All hand guns need to be licensed.
But you're probably right in that there's a local ordinance against carrying guns in public.
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Yes.
In fact you can legally carry a gun out in the open with out a permit.
You are totally with in your rights to walk down the road with a pair of 6-shooters looking like John Wayne.
But don't be surprised when the cops surround you with guns drawn and book you with a dozen other crimes that aren't "Carrying a gun in public."
On the other hand, there are laws against having blades over 6", so no dressing like a samurai.
Depends on where you live. In New York, for example, you need a permit for a handgun. In New York City you can't carry any kind of firearm without a permit.
What kind of permit? All hand guns need to be licensed.
But you're probably right in that there's a local ordinance against carrying guns in public.
guns laws and concealed weapons laws differ state to state and town to town. 5n some places in the states you can't take your gun from the house unless it is disassembled and in the box. A sword is not a concealed weapon and is therefore not part of the standard 6" rule. Not every jurisdiction has laws against such large blades.
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Our disbelief was aimed at outlawing something that has killed five people in two years. You can't tell me that isn't a complete and total waste of time.
That is NOT a complete and total waste of time. People died. If can stop gaffawing for a moment you'll realise that 5 people actually died. Five families. How many others were maimed? How many others going through life with half an intestine, a missing hand or a damaged limb.
Only passing laws if mass death is involved is far more ridiculous.
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Our disbelief was aimed at outlawing something that has killed five people in two years. You can't tell me that isn't a complete and total waste of time.
That is NOT a complete and total waste of time. People died. If can stop gaffawing for a moment you'll realise that 5 people actually died. Five families. How many others were maimed? How many others going through life with half an intestine, a missing hand or a damaged limb.
Only passing laws if mass death is involved is far more ridiculous.
How many died from being stabbed with broken bottles or hit over the head with lumber? GB has a population of 59 million people, and there's talk of banning something for 2.5 deaths a year? There have to be thousands of items that kill more than 2.5 people a year. This is an example of blaming the item for the acts of stupid people.
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Your wrong. It's a step in the right direction.
They passed laws banning guns, not a waste of time.
They passed laws banning knives, not a waste of time.
They passed laws regarding safety on building sites, not a waste of time.
They spent time making a legal requirement to have cars MOT'd so that they are safer. Not a waste of time.
They ban glass drinking vessels in some locations to stop the glass being used as weapons. Not a waste of time.
It is not a waste of time. Lives are worth the time.
If you think there are more urgent things that kill more people, then write to your MP, but dont throw up your hands and say it's all a waste of time.
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Speaking as a Warranted Rapier Marshal-at-Large for the Kingdom of the East, they'll get my rapier (and main-gauche) when they pry them from my cold dead hands.
(http://northernelectric.ca/medieval/smallbrawl_2007/sbv07_1415.jpg)
(Only half of those really belong to me and my wife.)
(http://northernelectric.ca/medieval/rapier/pic_captHew.jpg)
(I dare say the archery blunts taped to the tips and the lack of a true edge will help me out.)
First, all of these idiots running around thinking they're a ninja. We've already had someone link to a list of idiots with katanas stories.
Ah yes... That would be this link: http://www.thearma.org/essays/Fringe.htm
It never gets old. ;)
Based on those stories, it would seem that wall-hanger katanas do seem to attract a certain type of character, so I'm more inclined to see the law as a kind of "social profiling". OTOH, it could just be the relative cheapness and availability of that particular type of word (compared to, say, military sabre, or a Norman longsword) that inflates the percentage of crimes involving katanas.
That same site also has an interesting article on whether or not it's possible to determine what constitutes a "real" sword, as opposed to a wall-hanger. See http://www.thearma.org/spotlight/heymr.htm
Who's to say that a modern reproduction of a vintage katana is not itself a "real" katana? Does it have to have been be made in Japan? What if it was made in Japan, but had only a crappy cast metal blade? What if it was a high-quality blade forged by a recognised master bladesmith, but he made it in his shop in Singapore? Does it have to have been made a certain number of years ago? If so, would a modern blade by a Japanese master bladesmith forged for the Emperor's dress uniform not qualify?
How about a plastic katana? They've banned (or at least controlled the sale of) plastic replicas of guns.
Wasn't there also something a few months ago about the U.K. banning the sale (to anybody) of kitchen knives with a pointy tip, longer that something like 4 or 6 inches?
Swords in the possession of youths? Well, check out this bunch of vicious thugs:
(http://www.visitscotland.com/images/72934)
Wearing their gang colours and flashing gang signs.
Finally, a bit of Filk that touches on urban violence:
I'll See Your Six!
Ioseph of Locksley
(c) copyright 1993 W.J. Bethancourt III
TTTO: The Sleeping Scotsman
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A lovely lady went one night to a revel in the East
With dancing and with singing, with wine and Roasted Beast
When the revel came unto an end, she started out for home
Wrapped well in her woolen cloak, and walking all alone.
CHORUS: The things you will run into, the people that you meet
Walking all alone upon a New York City street!
Now, New York City's not a place for walking in the dark
Not in the streets and alleys and especially not the Park
But off she went most happily, without a single care
Wrapped up in her woolen cloak, all in the midnight air.
A street-tough jumped in front of her, with three friends in the night
And pulled a six-inch switchblade, that glittered in the light
He waved it underneath her nose, and said with fiendish glee:
"Give me all your money, girl, this is a robbery!"
She gazed upon the switchblade, and smiled a happy smile
Said "Boy, you ain't got any brains, and lack a sense of style!
You're standing where I want to walk, please move out of my way!"
The tough said "Girl, I'll cut you, and rob you anyway!"
All wrapped up in her woolen cloak, her garb was quite unseen
Her hands were hidden out of sight, and so was chain-mail's gleam...
She said "Now, go rob someone else, my money stays with me!"
He said, "I'll take your money with my six-inch snickersnee!"
The lady's smile got bigger, the robber took a swing
The chain-mail took the blow; the lady didn't feel a thing!
She pulled a Kirby broadsword, the robber's soul to shrive,
And grinned and said, "I'll see your six, and raise you thirty-five!"
The bandit gazed upon the sword, and then upon his knife
He turned and ran, with his three friends, a-running for his life!
Don't think a lady's easy, don't think she's helpless prey,
Especially if she is a fighter in the SCA!
Now if you don't believe my song, then ask the lady fair
With Cheshire Cat upon her shield, a blazon very rare:
Sir Trude is her name, me lads, if she should pass your way;
The very first of the Lady Knights within the SCA!
Supposedly based on a true story about Countess Sir Trude Lacklandia, but seems more to be one of those urban legends floating around in the Society, like the apocryphal "Blood for Odin!" (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22blood+for+odin%22&meta=) story.
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Oh yeah. It looks like bat'leths are right out.
Lethal Star Trek blade seized in knives amnesty (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=387680&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true)
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/05/mcgarrySWNS250506_450x400.jpg)
"The blade is believed to be a stainless-steel copy of a Klingon weapon used in the science fiction series Star Trek"
Oh. What was their first clue?
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Before I come back and criticize again, I do want to say I'm in full agreement on a ban to carry these things.
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Your wrong. It's a step in the right direction.
They passed laws banning guns, not a waste of time.
They passed laws banning knives, not a waste of time.
They passed laws regarding safety on building sites, not a waste of time.
They spent time making a legal requirement to have cars MOT'd so that they are safer. Not a waste of time.
They ban glass drinking vessels in some locations to stop the glass being used as weapons. Not a waste of time.
It is not a waste of time. Lives are worth the time.
If you think there are more urgent things that kill more people, then write to your MP, but dont throw up your hands and say it's all a waste of time.
I sit somewhere between you and Russell on this.
I agree that legislation can be levied effectively against either wide-spread hazards (drinking and driving) or point-source dangers (banning weapons on airplanes). If replica "ninja-style swords" are a real threat, and simply banning them will prevent even one death a year than it's worth it. Unfortunately baning a style of sword won't prevent a death, it will only change the weapon used.
At what level does personal responsibility come in? (I don't mean this to be inflammatory, I'm actually curious)
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(Man, I wish I had been online last week....)
A couple of belated thoughts:
1) "American condescension" - Simon* cited the UK's wonderfully "low" murder rate, and rightly pointed out the common U.S. un-familiarity with the inner workings of Parliament. I also recall during my 3 years in the UK that there was a drive-by in Nottingham (3 teenagers with an illlegal AK-47 strafed a police station), an axe murder in my village (Digby, Lincolnshire), and a school shooting in Scotland... all of which landed Columbine on the front pages of UK papers. Yes... they reported UK tragedies within articles about a famous U.S. shooting.
And my favorite Moment of Condescension was when a female MP spoke out against allowing "self-defence" to be used as argument to acquit a man who had shot two knife-wielding teenagers who had broken into his bedroom. (He had used a legal shotgun loaded with legal bird shot.) Her words: "If we allow 'self-defence' as legal defence for murder, then we risk descending into the kind of chaos seen in Kosovo." Yeah... or Texas.
2) "Drunken accidents" - Several people blamed the weapons for the drunken oafery that led to some of the example deaths. Rather than blame the weapons (which are inert without drunken oafs to wield them), why not ban drunken oafs? Full disclosure: I don't keep certain weapons in my home because men in my family tend to be accident prone, even when stone sober. But I do keep beer. :)
3) On the other hand, I mentioned to one of my former co-workers that I don't own a fire arm, and he angrily told me I was violating the 2nd Amendment. Twat.
*Not trying to contradict Simon, just sharing some examples of how condescension works both ways. And emphasizing that "low murder rate" is nowhere near the same thing as "no killin´".
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I was wrong (http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2fDjgiE6Edb-UrQIaixo3GQz3eQ).
Stupid British government.
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I am of the camp that people do not need to be carrying this kind of weapon around, but this clearly goes too far.
A few years ago, combat knives were banned on the grounds that they had no utility beyond stabbing people and were responsible for X number of attacks every year. Which is all well and good but no-one ever said "Man, I'd really like to stab that guy, but I just can't get hold of an appropriately themed knife. Might as well call the whole think off." For the record, the vast majority of knife-attacks in the UK (and probably everywhere outside of a warzone) involve common household breadknives. Most of these are domestic crimes of passion rather than premeditated muggings or gang warfare. Stanley knives (boxcutters) are also a favourite weapon, and are required tools in a score of trades, making it very hard to ban people from carrying them, let alone owning them.
Summary: Banning katanas will probably prevent people getting stabbed with katanas, but will almost certainly not reduce the total number of stabbings.
As a rule, these steps by ban weapons are often reactionary and poorly thought out. As an example, consider the Dunblane Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre) of 1996. At the time, British Law stated that, in order to hold a handgun licence, you had to be a member of a gun club in good standing. Hamilton had applied to every gun club within 50 miles of home, anf they all turned him down because they didn't think he should be allowed anywhere near a gun. And yet, when he applied for a handgun licence, the Home Office was more than happy to grant him one. Rather than tighten up their procedures to make sure that applications were vetted more closely in future, the government decided to outlaw a whole raft of gun types, meaning that the police were no longer tracking who bought or sold them. I cannot believe that this legislation did anything to reduce the risks of another serious incident happening.
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Summary: Banning katanas will probably prevent people getting stabbed with katanas, but will almost certainly not reduce the total number of stabbings.
I'd counter by saying that a Katana probably has quite a higher lethality than your common bread knife. My own common bread knife had quite a bit of trouble with a roll last night, so~
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Summary: Banning katanas will probably prevent people getting stabbed with katanas, but will almost certainly not reduce the total number of stabbings.
I'd counter by saying that a Katana probably has quite a higher lethality than your common bread knife. My own common bread knife had quite a bit of trouble with a roll last night, so~
I didn't tell my wife that I had just sharpened ours and she nearly cut her hand in half.
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Summary: Banning katanas will probably prevent people getting stabbed with katanas, but will almost certainly not reduce the total number of stabbings.
I'd counter by saying that a Katana probably has quite a higher lethality than your common bread knife. My own common bread knife had quite a bit of trouble with a roll last night, so~
I didn't tell my wife that I had just sharpened ours and she nearly cut her hand in half.
I just realized it was bread knife (serrated, long) and not butter knife, which I was thinking of. D'oh.
I still have an inch long scar on my hand from an unfortunate incident involving a bagel, a dog, and a squirrel.
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Ohhhh.... Bagel bagel bagel
I made it out of wheat
And when it's dry and ready
Oh bagel I will eat! Hey!
(Yes, I am far too easily amused.)
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I still have an inch long scar on my hand from an unfortunate incident involving a bagel, a dog, and a squirrel.
Oh, please do tell... :D
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I still have an inch long scar on my hand from an unfortunate incident involving a bagel, a dog, and a squirrel.
Oh, please do tell... :D
Sounds a lot like the one about the girl, the cat, and the peanut butter.
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I still have an inch long scar on my hand from an unfortunate incident involving a bagel, a dog, and a squirrel.
Oh, please do tell... :D
It's really not as good as it's constituents. Basically, I was cutting a bagel, the dog saw a squirrel, bumped me on it's way to the glass back door, and I found myself with a gash on my left palm. I can actually still see the places where the stitches went in.
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I still have an inch long scar on my hand from an unfortunate incident involving a bagel, a dog, and a squirrel.
Oh, please do tell... :D
It's really not as good as it's constituents. Basically, I was cutting a bagel, the dog saw a squirrel, bumped me on it's way to the glass back door, and I found myself with a gash on my left palm. I can actually still see the places where the stitches went in.
So it's nothing like the one about the girl, the cat, and the peanut butter.
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I still have an inch long scar on my hand from an unfortunate incident involving a bagel, a dog, and a squirrel.
Oh, please do tell... :D
It's really not as good as it's constituents. Basically, I was cutting a bagel, the dog saw a squirrel, bumped me on it's way to the glass back door, and I found myself with a gash on my left palm. I can actually still see the places where the stitches went in.
You're right... not very entertaining. I'll give you 20 minutes to try again. ;)
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It's really not as good as it's constituents. Basically, I was cutting a bagel, the dog saw a squirrel, bumped me on it's way to the glass back door, and I found myself with a gash on my left palm. I can actually still see the places where the stitches went in.
So it's nothing like the one about the girl, the cat, and the peanut butter.
I haven't heard that one.
You're right... not very entertaining. I'll give you 20 minutes to try again. ;)
Well, I did leave out the part about the squirrel being a radioactive zombie squirrel, the dog being Krypto, and the blood coming out of the cut the subtle knife made somehow being Cylon-Human cord blood.
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You're right... not very entertaining. I'll give you 20 minutes to try again. ;)
Well, I did leave out the part about the squirrel being a radioactive zombie squirrel, the dog being Krypto, and the blood coming out of the cut the subtle knife made somehow being Cylon-Human cord blood.
Oooo... Steve! There's the next EP Flash piece! (I knew you could do it!)
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So it's nothing like the one about the girl, the cat, and the peanut butter.
I heard it was a dog. I don't think cats like peanut butter.
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So it's nothing like the one about the girl, the cat, and the peanut butter.
I heard it was a dog. I don't think cats like peanut butter.
That was a different one.
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i heard it was a guy
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i heard it was a guy
I heard he was a giant chicken! ;D