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PodCastle => Fantasy Discussion => Topic started by: Talia on March 20, 2008, 01:03:12 PM
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In case anyone didn't see it on BoingBoing, Mur Lafferty has released the fourth novel in her 'Heaven' series, 'Wasteland.'
http://murverse.com/2008/03/19/wasteland-is-live/
Like just about everything she's written, its an excellent series and absolutely worth checking out. I can't wait to start this one! :)
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"Is playing for keeps" done?
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Yes, all wrapped up. And published in physical form, I think.
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I listened to the first episode this morning and really enjoyed it. I liked Playing for Keeps a lot, but I love the Heaven series.
Question for people more tech savvy than I am -- it looks like the book is all up on podiobooks now. Is there a way to drop the whole thing into my itunes? There's no manual button I can find, and it's not showing up in the itunes store, so right now, I'm waiting for each individual episode on a daily basis (which is actually okay, I think. I probably can't listen to much more than one a day).
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Question for people more tech savvy than I am -- it looks like the book is all up on podiobooks now. Is there a way to drop the whole thing into my itunes? There's no manual button I can find, and it's not showing up in the itunes store, so right now, I'm waiting for each individual episode on a daily basis (which is actually okay, I think. I probably can't listen to much more than one a day).
Go to your "My subscriptions" page. A few lines down from the iTunes icon is the drop down menu where you can change how often the feed updates. Two lines below that is a link that says, "Release all episodes now". Click that and you're in business.
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I listened to the first episode this morning and really enjoyed it. I liked Playing for Keeps a lot, but I love the Heaven series.
Question for people more tech savvy than I am -- it looks like the book is all up on podiobooks now. Is there a way to drop the whole thing into my itunes? There's no manual button I can find, and it's not showing up in the itunes store, so right now, I'm waiting for each individual episode on a daily basis (which is actually okay, I think. I probably can't listen to much more than one a day).
hehehe DKT, I KNEW I spotted a familiar name on her blog comments :D
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Yup :) I'm a sucker for the Mur.
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In case anyone didn't see it on BoingBoing, Mur Lafferty has released the fourth novel in her 'Heaven' series, 'Wasteland.'
http://murverse.com/2008/03/19/wasteland-is-live/
Like just about everything she's written, its an excellent series and absolutely worth checking out. I can't wait to start this one! :)
Awesome. I'd never have known about it if I hadn't checked here. Thanks for the heads-up.
(WTF is a "boingboing"?)
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Awesome. I'd never have known about it if I hadn't checked here. Thanks for the heads-up.
(WTF is a "boingboing"?)
boingboing.net is a REALLY fun, excellent blog about all sorts of random crap. It's great for people with short attention spans and eclectic interests like me :D Check it out. They occasionally link to Escape Pod stories too (and EP periodically runs stories by one of the editors, Cory Doctorow. Those are always a treat to read, as he is awesome).
As an aside, i just finished 'playing for keeps' and am now desperately itching for a sequel.
Man I loved that story.
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Yes, all wrapped up. And published in physical form, I think.
Where? I've been saying for months that I would buy a paper copy of teh Heaven series. (I've only just started Playing for Keeps today, so I can't say the same for it yet.)
I was just at my local B&N today and saw a rather sad vacancy, between Mercedes Lackey and Keith Laumer, begging to be filled.
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Yes, all wrapped up. And published in physical form, I think.
Where? I've been saying for months that I would buy a paper copy of teh Heaven series. (I've only just started Playing for Keeps today, so I can't say the same for it yet.)
I was just at my local B&N today and saw a rather sad vacancy, between Mercedes Lackey and Keith Laumer, begging to be filled.
No, I'm pretty sure Heaven has not been published in any kind of print form. Actually, I think Mur's doing an agent hung (as we type) for a print novel of Heaven and Hell.
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No, I'm pretty sure Heaven has not been published in any kind of print form. Actually, I think Mur's doing an agent hung (as we type) for a print novel of Heaven and Hell.
So where's PfK available?
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Steph: Look's like Mur is selling it on her website (check the right hand sidebar)
http://www.playingforkeepsnovel.com/
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Steph: Look's like Mur is selling it on her website (check the right hand sidebar)
http://www.playingforkeepsnovel.com/
OK. I'm about halfway through the 'cast as of this morning.
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Wasteland is probably my fav of the Heaven series. Great stuff, I just can't get enough of it.
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Wasteland is probably my fav of the Heaven series. Great stuff, I just can't get enough of it.
I'm probably starting it as soon as I'm done with PfK, especially since Earth was the first of the series to really end with a cliffhanger.
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Oh yay. I've become strangely addicted to Mur's voice.
Earth was the first of the series to really end with a cliffhanger.
I totally don't remember that, but then I guess it's been a while. I should probably read the chapter summaries.
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When will this series end?
I keep listening to each season expecting a story. I never get it. It never has an ending.
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When will this series end?
I keep listening to each season expecting a story. I never get it. It never has an ending.
Lafferty says at the end of Wasteland that the final season is forthcoming.
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I hate endings. I get so attached to characters. :/
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I hate endings. I get so attached to characters. :/
Agreed, but what I hate worse than leaving those characters, is having them outstay their welcome.
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I hate endings. I get so attached to characters. :/
Agreed, but what I hate worse than leaving those characters, is having them outstay their welcome.
In my opinion, they did long ago. At least in the story's current form.
I listened to the first three parts, and I have no intention of listening to part 4 or 5. What I heard felt like a decent rough draft (not a first draft, but far from a final draft) - the plot stutters and stops, the characters seem to change personality every other episode, things happen for no reason. There is a lot of cool stuff here, but there is no cohesion, and it really feels like the story started in one direction, and that the author decided to shift direction about 3 or 4 times since then (in the first three parts. Maybe more by now). There's a good story here, at some point, but it requires heavy editing.
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I listened to the first three parts, and I have no intention of listening to part 4 or 5. What I heard felt like a decent rough draft (not a first draft, but far from a final draft) - the plot stutters and stops, the characters seem to change personality every other episode, things happen for no reason. There is a lot of cool stuff here, but there is no cohesion, and it really feels like the story started in one direction, and that the author decided to shift direction about 3 or 4 times since then (in the first three parts. Maybe more by now). There's a good story here, at some point, but it requires heavy editing.
I never would have dared to be the first person to voice that opinion in these forums... but I'm very glad someone has so that I can say "Yep, me thinky that too".
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I never would have dared to be the first person to voice that opinion in these forums.
LoL! I thought the same thing. I haven't made it through the first Heaven series, yet, but I'm with eytanz. I listened to PfK and enjoyed it, but, well, she's not made goddess status with me yet. ;)
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I've only gotten more into the Heaven books as they've progressed, myself. I donno. They work for me, what can I say. :)
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I loved the first two seasons, but the whole god-mode plot of season 3 kinda lost me. (Though the hobos were pretty funny.)
I agree with the comments about it not being a finished draft - I've kinda had that opinion about most long fiction I've heard on podcasts.
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The only bit of criticism I've noticed in the Heaven series is specifically with season three, in which Daniel turned from a strong, prophetic character into an inconsistant douche in a fashion that didn't really work for me. The rest is pretty solid though.
The fourth season did get a lot better though--I love this new world that they "built." I mean, steampunk meets dinosaurs? Who the hell wouldn't? ;D
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I agree that these could indeed use the heavy editing hand. That said, I like them quite a bit. I'm along for the ride, and I devoured them wholesale within hours of finding them posted on itunes. Mur can keep writing and I'll keep listening. Plus- I fully plan on investing in PFK if and or when it hits "real book" publishing status.
I have noticed in Murs books that most of her male charactosr have some douchbaggery about them. Humm.
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As an aside, i just finished 'playing for keeps' and am now desperately itching for a sequel.
She really left it hanging at the end there didnt she?
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I have noticed in Murs books that most of her male charactosr have some douchbaggery about them. Humm.
I've noticed that a male character invariably calls the female lead "dude" at least once in the course of the story :D
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on a tangenally related topic, Mur apparently has a new audiodrama project going on on her website. About zombies. Working in a business office :p