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Title: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 04:02:50 PM
All questions welcome, no matter how esoteric.
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Post by: wintermute on July 18, 2008, 04:35:33 PM
How many of the rabbits from Night of the Lepus could Godzilla eat before he choked on a hairball?
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Post by: stePH on July 18, 2008, 04:45:00 PM
If Leonard Maltin and Sidney Poitier both ganged up on Mecha-Streisand at the same time, could they have kicked her ass without Robert Smith's help?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 04:50:39 PM
How many of the rabbits from Night of the Lepus could Godzilla eat before he choked on a hairball?

All and without choking. He'd sizzle their hair off before eating them.
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Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 04:50:59 PM
If Leonard Maltin and Sidney Poitier both ganged up on Mecha-Streisand at the same time, could they have kicked her ass without Robert Smith's help?

Nope. She had the amulet.
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: wintermute on July 18, 2008, 05:27:24 PM
How did the ants in Them! not just have their legs snap off as soon as they tried to move?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 05:35:41 PM
How did the ants in Them! not just have their legs snap off as soon as they tried to move?

The beauty of radioactively seeded explosive evolution, or as I call it Wilderness Insulated Retroactive Evolution System (WIRES).
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Post by: stePH on July 18, 2008, 08:54:21 PM
If Leonard Maltin and Sidney Poitier both ganged up on Mecha-Streisand at the same time, could they have kicked her ass without Robert Smith's help?

Nope. She had the amulet.

But suppose they had punched her in the nose like Robert Smith did?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 09:15:49 PM
If Leonard Maltin and Sidney Poitier both ganged up on Mecha-Streisand at the same time, could they have kicked her ass without Robert Smith's help?

Nope. She had the amulet.

But suppose they had punched her in the nose like Robert Smith did?

The nose punch was why they needed Robert Smith.
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Post by: Alasdair5000 on July 18, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
Given the immense size of Godzilla and his compatriots, exactly how big is Monster Island?  Also, how plausible s it that Monster Island is in fact Skull Island under a different name?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
Given the immense size of Godzilla and his compatriots, exactly how big is Monster Island?  Also, how plausible s it that Monster Island is in fact Skull Island under a different name?

A common misconception... there is no "Monster Island". However, there is a facility within the Ogasawara Island chain that was designed as "Monsterland" by the United Nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonin_Islands

As for the inhabitants -

Godzilla
Minilla (Godzilla's offspring)
Anguirus
Rodan
Mothra
Varan
Baragon
Spiga
Manda
Gorosaurus

They are enclosed by special "scientific barriers" tuned to the specific instincts of the monsters.

As far as navigational charts show, Skull Island, as discovered by Carl Denham is the same Skull Island visited by Commander Carl Nelson on his UN Submarine, and later by Dr. Who in his helicopters, is not in the Bonin chain. It is in fact somewhere further south, but the location is known only to a few men. Though Skull Island is theorized to be within the vicinity of Easter Island. The same can be said for Obelisk Island (home of Gappa the Triphibian Monster). While Pleasure Island, (Where baby Gappa was to be an attraction) and Infant Island (Home of Mothra) and Odo Island (where the survivors of Godzilla's ship attacks washed ashore) are located within the Bonin chain.
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: Ocicat on July 18, 2008, 11:09:23 PM
Exactly how many times has Tokyo been destroyed and rebuilt?
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Post by: jrderego on July 18, 2008, 11:43:10 PM
Exactly how many times has Tokyo been destroyed and rebuilt?

Showa series -

Once by Godzilla in Gojira/Godzilla King of the Monsters
Once by Mothra in Mothra
Once by Godzilla and King Kong in King Kong vs. Godzilla
Once by Godzilla and Mothra in Godzilla vs. the Thing
Once by Ghidorah in Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster
Once by Ghidorah, Rodan, and Godzilla in Godzilla vs. Monster Zero
Once by Hedorah in Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster
Once by Godzilla's cyborg in Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla
Once by Megalon in Godzilla vs. Megalon (stock footage destruction though, so I don't think it truly counts)
Once by Titanosaurs in Terror of Mechagodzilla

Once by Gamera in Gammera the Invincible
Once by Barugon in Gamera vs. Barugon

Once by Frankenstein's Monster in Frankenstein Conquers the World
Once by both the green and brown gargantua brothers in War of the Gargantua

Twice by The Mysterians in The Mysterians and Battle in Outer Space

Once by The Neptune Men in Invasion of the Neptune men

Once by the two Gappas in Gappa the Triphibian Monster

Once by Godzilla in Godzilla 1985.

In each of the Heisei films for both Godzilla and Gamera so that's... five for Godzilla and assorted foes, and three for Gamera and the Gyaos monsters, Irys, and Legion.

And in all of the Millennium series films for Godzilla... that's five for Godzilla and foes (Mothra, Kiryu, and Megaguiras).

Finally, by the Xillians in Godzilla Final Wars.

So a total of - 33 times



Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: Planish on July 19, 2008, 02:54:04 AM
1. For all the monsters on Monster Island that eat conventional food, what do they eat? It can't have a lot of prey left running around.

2. wikipedia sez:
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In the Hanna-Barbera cartoon, Godzilla's roar was not the same as his trademark roar. Instead, it was provided by Ted Cassidy.
How did they create Godzilla's classic roar (http://www.onlyinternet.net/awinterrowd/kaiju/gallery/godzilla2.au)? Was it a slowed down and reverbed version of a real more mundane animal? There seems to be variations from one movie to the next, but all sound pretty similar.

3. Would King Kong think that the 50 Foot Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_50_Foot_Woman) was hot?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 19, 2008, 02:59:42 AM
1. For all the monsters on Monster Island that eat conventional food, what do they eat? It can't have a lot of prey left running around.

Destroy all Monsters shows Rodan eating a dolphin, the rest don't appear to eat anything.

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2. wikipedia sez:
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In the Hanna-Barbera cartoon, Godzilla's roar was not the same as his trademark roar. Instead, it was provided by Ted Cassidy.
How did they create Godzilla's classic roar (http://www.onlyinternet.net/awinterrowd/kaiju/gallery/godzilla2.au)? Was it a slowed down and reverbed version of a real more mundane animal? There seems to be variations from one movie to the next, but all sound pretty similar.

the original roar for the 1954 film was made by dragging a leather gloved hand up and down the strings of a contrabass. The recording was then slowed and manipulated to create the roar. The roar, from those base recordings, was used in all of the Toho Godzilla films. However, in the Americanized version of Godzilla Raids Again, the American producer/distributor assigned the sound of Anguirus to Godzilla and vice versa.

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3. Would King Kong think that the 50 Foot Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_50_Foot_Woman) was hot?

Probably not. She was way bigger than him and he seemed threatened by large things as opposed to small Fay Wray sized things.
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Post by: Ocicat on July 19, 2008, 03:11:31 AM
So a total of - 33 times

Uh, ya.  I actually don't think so.  I know a lot of the Heisei Godzilla series they stayed away from Tokyo itself.  Biolante destroyed Osaka, Battra and Mothra throw down in Nagoya, Space Godzilla got... Fukuoka?  In fact that's probably why they threw out film to film continuity in the Millennium series - just so they could flatten Tokyo every time and not apologize.

Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 19, 2008, 03:30:20 AM
So a total of - 33 times

Uh, ya.  I actually don't think so.  I know a lot of the Heisei Godzilla series they stayed away from Tokyo itself.  Biolante destroyed Osaka, Battra and Mothra throw down in Nagoya, Space Godzilla got... Fukuoka?  In fact that's probably why they threw out film to film continuity in the Millennium series - just so they could flatten Tokyo every time and not apologize.



Biollante didn't really flatten anything but Dr. Shirigame's lab. Godzilla came through Tokyo after being released from Mt. Mihara and again after walking up through the Iraga Channel.

I completely forgot Space Godzilla. Wasn't the end battle with Moguera and Godzilla in Tokyo? I also forgot GMK, which was all Tokyo at the end.

Godzilla, Battra, and Mothra have their fight in Yokohama at the Cosmoworld Amusement Park.

I stand by 33.
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: stePH on July 19, 2008, 05:47:31 AM
Will Godzilla and Megalon ever confess their forbidden love, or will they continue to live in denial until death separates them a final time?
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Post by: deflective on July 19, 2008, 06:07:03 AM
why do giant sea creatures fair well against mothra's sonic attack but not so much against rap trios (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDS83yrM30Y)?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: Alasdair5000 on July 19, 2008, 09:29:33 AM
Given the immense size of Godzilla and his compatriots, exactly how big is Monster Island?  Also, how plausible s it that Monster Island is in fact Skull Island under a different name?

A common misconception... there is no "Monster Island". However, there is a facility within the Ogasawara Island chain that was designed as "Monsterland" by the United Nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonin_Islands

As for the inhabitants -

Godzilla
Minilla (Godzilla's offspring)
Anguirus
Rodan
Mothra
Varan
Baragon
Spiga
Manda
Gorosaurus

They are enclosed by special "scientific barriers" tuned to the specific instincts of the monsters.

As far as navigational charts show, Skull Island, as discovered by Carl Denham is the same Skull Island visited by Commander Carl Nelson on his UN Submarine, and later by Dr. Who in his helicopters, is not in the Bonin chain. It is in fact somewhere further south, but the location is known only to a few men. Though Skull Island is theorized to be within the vicinity of Easter Island. The same can be said for Obelisk Island (home of Gappa the Triphibian Monster). While Pleasure Island, (Where baby Gappa was to be an attraction) and Infant Island (Home of Mothra) and Odo Island (where the survivors of Godzilla's ship attacks washed ashore) are located within the Bonin chain.


* Is awed *

Thanks for that:)
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Post by: jrderego on July 19, 2008, 12:20:22 PM
Will Godzilla and Megalon ever confess their forbidden love, or will they continue to live in denial until death separates them a final time?

Unfortunately, Megalon succumbed to a bad Pyrethrin habit some years ago following a disastrous tryst with Gigan.
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Post by: jrderego on July 19, 2008, 12:24:15 PM
why do giant sea creatures fair well against mothra's sonic attack but not so much against rap trios (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDS83yrM30Y)?

It's funny you bring that up. The Intergalactic video was based on this (http://www.hulu.com/johnny-sokko-and-his-flying-robot).
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Post by: wintermute on July 19, 2008, 12:53:02 PM
3. Would King Kong think that the 50 Foot Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_50_Foot_Woman) was hot?
Probably as much as you think regular female gorillas are hot.
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Post by: stePH on July 19, 2008, 03:47:53 PM
3. Would King Kong think that the 50 Foot Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_50_Foot_Woman) was hot?
Probably as much as you think regular female gorillas are hot.

He seems to have a thing for human women that fit in the palm of his hand, so why not one that's actually to scale?
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Post by: deflective on July 19, 2008, 07:42:01 PM
It's funny you bring that up. The Intergalactic video was based on this (http://www.hulu.com/johnny-sokko-and-his-flying-robot).

good to know, wiki updated
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Post by: Russell Nash on July 20, 2008, 04:24:59 AM
jeff,  this is an amazing dispay of geekery.
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Post by: jrderego on July 20, 2008, 04:33:02 AM
jeff,  this is an amazing dispay of geekery.

I am the giant monster go-to guy for Horrorview. This line of questioning is only scratching the surface of my geekdom.
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Post by: Russell Nash on July 20, 2008, 05:22:26 AM
jeff,  this is an amazing dispay of geekery.

I am the giant monster go-to guy for Horrorview. This line of questioning is only scratching the surface of my geekdom.

Folks, that is a challenge.  Go get him!
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Post by: Thaurismunths on July 20, 2008, 02:39:27 PM
Who birthed the brothers Sandra and Gaira?
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Post by: jrderego on July 20, 2008, 02:48:18 PM
Who birthed the brothers Sandra and Gaira?

They were created from the flesh of the Frankenstein child from Frankenstein Conquers the World. Though no one "birthed" them per say, they developed from miscellaneous cells after the Frankenstein Child and Baragon fought to their deaths.
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Post by: wintermute on July 20, 2008, 04:02:37 PM
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen Mothra?
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Post by: Alasdair5000 on July 20, 2008, 04:37:45 PM
Further to my earlier question, has there ever been a specific theory put forward as to why there are at least two areas (Skull Island and the Bonin islands) where evolution appears to have taken a dramatically different path to the rest of the planet?
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Post by: jrderego on July 20, 2008, 05:07:48 PM
Further to my earlier question, has there ever been a specific theory put forward as to why there are at least two areas (Skull Island and the Bonin islands) where evolution appears to have taken a dramatically different path to the rest of the planet?

Skull Island is unknown, but one theory is that Dr. Makino's Berries, which offer non-narcotic anesthetic effects, may be responsible for Kong's gigantism. These berries are only found on this island.

Within the Bonin islands the rapid evolution is attributed to the lingering residue of nuclear testing.
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Post by: jrderego on July 20, 2008, 05:27:17 PM
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen Mothra?

Mach 1 as suggested in Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, All Out Attack.
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Post by: Russell Nash on July 20, 2008, 05:38:49 PM
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen Mothra?

Mach 1 as suggested in Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, All Out Attack.

At what altitude?  The speed of sound changes with altitude.
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Post by: jrderego on July 20, 2008, 06:01:37 PM
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen Mothra?

Mach 1 as suggested in Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, All Out Attack.

At what altitude?  The speed of sound changes with altitude.

I don't think altitude was mentioned sadly. Mothra was spotted within clouds, not that it helps establish altitude.
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Post by: Russell Nash on July 20, 2008, 06:13:46 PM
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen Mothra?

Mach 1 as suggested in Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, All Out Attack.

At what altitude?  The speed of sound changes with altitude.

I don't think altitude was mentioned sadly. Mothra was spotted within clouds, not that it helps establish altitude.

Going to have to ask the judges if I get a point on that one.
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Post by: deflective on July 20, 2008, 07:33:40 PM
points are awarded for stumping an expert on known information. if the expert claims that the information is not available then the point is awarded once you show that it has been defined.

point of order: what qualifies as a giant monster? does the host qualify? anaconda? how abstract can you get and still qualify as a monster? unicron, the doomsday machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine)?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: Windup on July 21, 2008, 04:35:43 AM
Exactly how many times has Tokyo been destroyed and rebuilt?

...So a total of - 33 times


At what point will Japanese insurance companies wise up and stop writing coverage for monster-inflicted damage, thus rendering Tokyo un-rebuildable for financial reasons?

When that time comes, will monsters begin attacking a different Japanese city, or will they limit their depridations to the area formerly occupied by Tokyo, which will presumably revert to wilderness or become an encampment of the homeless?
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Post by: jrderego on July 21, 2008, 11:04:53 AM
points are awarded for stumping an expert on known information. if the expert claims that the information is not available then the point is awarded once you show that it has been defined.

point of order: what qualifies as a giant monster? does the host qualify? anaconda? how abstract can you get and still qualify as a monster? unicron, the doomsday machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine)?

For the sake of clarity, a giant monster, at least by my definition, is rather straightforward: Huge animal, or robot, that attacks a town or city. The Host would qualify, as would even, Mighty Joe Young (though that's probably the smallest end of the giant monster spectrum), while Anaconda wouldn't as it didn't attack a city. The Doomsday Machine would be classified as a super-giant monster, as it destroys whole worlds.
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Post by: jrderego on July 21, 2008, 11:11:08 AM
Exactly how many times has Tokyo been destroyed and rebuilt?

...So a total of - 33 times


At what point will Japanese insurance companies wise up and stop writing coverage for monster-inflicted damage, thus rendering Tokyo un-rebuildable for financial reasons?

When that time comes, will monsters begin attacking a different Japanese city, or will they limit their depridations to the area formerly occupied by Tokyo, which will presumably revert to wilderness or become an encampment of the homeless?


Only a few films have touched on this aspect of giant monsterdom, Godzilla vs. Biollante had characters discussing the rebuilding efforts after Godzilla's rampage in 1984(1985 for American audiences) and even featured characters sitting in the "Godzilla Memorial Cafe" where a giant footprint rammed through concrete was used as a decorative skylight.

Tokyo wasn't always attacked either.

Rodan's rampage took place in Sasebo/Nagasaki. Godzilla destroyed Osaka and Hokkaido in Godzilla Raids Again, and the final showdown with Kong took place in Osaka in King Kong vs. Godzilla. In some cases the city is barely damaged during the monster fight, such as the final battle between Kong and Mechanikong in King Kong escapes - One building + Tokyo tower, the rest of the city remained intact.
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Post by: wintermute on July 21, 2008, 11:41:52 AM
points are awarded for stumping an expert on known information. if the expert claims that the information is not available then the point is awarded once you show that it has been defined.

point of order: what qualifies as a giant monster? does the host qualify? anaconda? how abstract can you get and still qualify as a monster? unicron, the doomsday machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine)?

For the sake of clarity, a giant monster, at least by my definition, is rather straightforward: Huge animal, or robot, that attacks a town or city. The Host would qualify, as would even, Mighty Joe Young (though that's probably the smallest end of the giant monster spectrum), while Anaconda wouldn't as it didn't attack a city. The Doomsday Machine would be classified as a super-giant monster, as it destroys whole worlds.
So, the Cystalline Entity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystalline_Entity) from ST:TNG would count?
Title: Re: The Giant Monster Doctor is in... All giant monster film questions answered
Post by: jrderego on July 21, 2008, 11:56:07 AM
points are awarded for stumping an expert on known information. if the expert claims that the information is not available then the point is awarded once you show that it has been defined.

point of order: what qualifies as a giant monster? does the host qualify? anaconda? how abstract can you get and still qualify as a monster? unicron, the doomsday machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine)?

For the sake of clarity, a giant monster, at least by my definition, is rather straightforward: Huge animal, or robot, that attacks a town or city. The Host would qualify, as would even, Mighty Joe Young (though that's probably the smallest end of the giant monster spectrum), while Anaconda wouldn't as it didn't attack a city. The Doomsday Machine would be classified as a super-giant monster, as it destroys whole worlds.
So, the Cystalline Entity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystalline_Entity) from ST:TNG would count?

I guess. It's a different genre than giant monster films though and not my forte.