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Title: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 12, 2008, 08:57:23 PM
Hi everyone,

This is a game we play on fan forums for certain bands/singers, and I don't see why it shouldn't work here, if anyone is game.

Each book from a list of 20 top SF books (gained from the internet and not my actual opinion) begins with 5 points. Each turn you have to take one point from one book and add it onto another.

For example:

Book A (5)
Book B (5)

Next Poster:

Book A (4) -1
Book B (6) +1

If there's any book you think should be on the list, feel free to add it- this is a rough list.

And now:

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (5)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (5)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5) 
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5) 
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (5)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5) 
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (5)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5) 
Daniel Keys- Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (5)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5) 
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (5)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)

If this gets enough interest, we may eventually narrow it down to one book.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 12, 2008, 09:02:32 PM
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (6)    +1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (4) -1


Did I get it right?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 12, 2008, 09:07:11 PM
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)  +1
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (4)      -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 12, 2008, 09:07:50 PM
Cyteen by C.J. Cherryh.  It won a Hugo award.

And it's the best SF novel ever written.  ;)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: DKT on November 12, 2008, 09:52:15 PM
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3) -1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6) +1

Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3) -1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6) +1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 12, 2008, 10:08:18 PM
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7) +1

H G Wells The Time Machine    (4) -1

the main list should keep a daily update, i could help if help is wanted
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 12, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
If a book hits 0, is it gone?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 12, 2008, 10:16:38 PM
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) +1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (4) +1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7) +1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (6) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (6) +1
George Orwell 1984  (6) +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (6)  +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)  +1



I'll help with the daily updates as well.

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 12, 2008, 10:23:30 PM
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) +1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (4) +1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7) +1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (6) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (6) +1
George Orwell 1984  (6) +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (6)  +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)  +1



I'll help with the daily updates as well.



You forgot to list which ones you're subtracting from.  (If I understand the game)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 12, 2008, 10:54:28 PM
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) +1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (4) +1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7) +1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (6) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (6) +1
George Orwell 1984  (6) +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (6)  +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)  +1



I'll help with the daily updates as well.



You forgot to list which ones you're subtracting from.  (If I understand the game)
yea i did the same thing at first, Heradel, then realized what you gotta do.
for every point you add to one book, you have to subtract from another book.  so in giving Hitchhiker's Guide a point, you have to take that point from some other book...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 13, 2008, 12:17:06 AM
Is it one plus and one minus per day?  Someone should have explained.  Maybe provided a link.




::thud::

Ok, I deserved that chair shot.   ;D
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 13, 2008, 03:40:07 AM
Here's the list as it stands now:

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (4)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (5) (just added)


Okay, to the above I change the following:

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game (4) -1 
Isaac Asimov Foundation (4) -1
George Orwell 1984 (4) -1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land (5) -1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 (4) -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey (4) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot (4) -1
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers (4) -1
H G Wells The Time Machine (4) -1
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama (4) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (4) -1
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (4) -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (4) -1
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3) -1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (4) -1

C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (20) +15

(and I think I showed some restraint, taking down only the fifteen above listed. ;) For one thing, I omitted the ones I haven't read as well as the ones I really really liked. )
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 13, 2008, 03:47:29 AM
Hey, you cheated Stranger in a Strange Land!
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 13, 2008, 04:31:09 AM
hmmm well... i think you can only add one point to a book per turn dude...
but if not...
well...

C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (20) -14
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (21) +14

ha!
but i think its only one point per book.... Raving_Lunatic, care to clarify?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 13, 2008, 05:50:57 AM
hmmm well... i think you can only add one point to a book per turn dude...
but if not...
well...

C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (20) -14
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (21) +14

ha!
but i think its only one point per book.... Raving_Lunatic, care to clarify?

For each book I lowered the score of, I took only one point.  Then I gave all the deducted points to Cyteen.  I could have done it turn-by-turn for each book, but it was much more efficient the way I did it.

[edit]
Okay, here it is spelled out in full.  DKT took two turns in a single post, so there's precedent.

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6) +1

Isaac Asimov Foundation (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7) +1

George Orwell 1984 (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (8) +1

Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land (5) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (9) +1

Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (10) +1

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (11) +1

Isaac Asimov I, Robot (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (12) +1

Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (13) +1

H G Wells The Time Machine (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (14) +1

Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (15) +1

Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (16) +1

Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (17) +1

Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (18) +1

Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (19) +1

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (4) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (20) +15

And it took a great deal of restraint to not take all of Rendezvous with Rama's points at one go  ;)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 13, 2008, 05:53:16 AM
Hey, you cheated Stranger in a Strange Land!

Fixed.  I tried to be accurate but somehow missed that one.  And obviously I didn't count Heradel's score-uppage because the corresponding deductions weren't specified.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 13, 2008, 06:02:14 AM
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) +1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (4) +1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7) +1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (6) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (6) +1
George Orwell 1984  (6) +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (6)  +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)  +1



I'll help with the daily updates as well.



You forgot to list which ones you're subtracting from.  (If I understand the game)
yea i did the same thing at first, Heradel, then realized what you gotta do.
for every point you add to one book, you have to subtract from another book.  so in giving Hitchhiker's Guide a point, you have to take that point from some other book...

Oh, ok, I didn't realize it was a closed system. I'll fix it in the morning.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 13, 2008, 04:58:02 PM
Wow. What a huge response in such a short time... I guess it was the title.

You can only subtract one point from one book and add one point to another in the original game- you can't just deduct points from all of them.You can't post twice in a row either, but you can post twice in a day providing you don't post twice in a row. Once a book has zero points, it is OUT and cannot be returned.

Also, sorry if this isn't clear, but I reckon it is best to copy and paste the list in full from the previous poster and then highlight the books you changed, so that everyone knows what is going on.

With that little clarification, I'll type the full list as it stands, with unintentional rule-breaks removed.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 13, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (4)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)

now I put my changes in bold

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6) +1
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)-1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: jrderego on November 13, 2008, 05:06:54 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (4)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)

my changes

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5) + 1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6) +1
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)-1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6) -1

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 13, 2008, 05:15:28 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)     
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (5)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (2) -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5) +1
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 13, 2008, 05:16:23 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)    
Frank Herbert Dune  (4) -1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)  
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   +1
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (5)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 13, 2008, 05:19:22 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (1) -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) +1
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)

Which leaves Snow Crash one point away from elimination from the list. To show elimination, just put a (-) where the item was.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 13, 2008, 05:35:09 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451      (5)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (2) +1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5) -1

Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 13, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
My post:
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (3)

Next post:
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (1) -1
...
Which leaves Snow Crash one point away from elimination from the list. To show elimination, just put a (-) where the item was.
Much as I'd like to see Snowcrash off the list. three minus one does not equal one.

Edit: Ah, the error is mine, apologies. It seems I missed the fact that this had gone onto page 2, and I based mine off the final entry on page 1.

Whoops.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 13, 2008, 06:11:11 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (6)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (4) -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (2)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (3)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 13, 2008, 06:15:14 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land     (7)  +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (4)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (2)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (2) -1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 13, 2008, 06:31:40 PM
I'd gladly swap all my votes for Stranger in a Strange Land for Citizen of the Galaxy
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 13, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (6) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) -1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (4)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (2)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (2)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 13, 2008, 10:39:11 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7) +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (2)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (2)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wherethewild on November 13, 2008, 11:09:00 PM

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)    
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)  
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7) +1
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (1) -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (2)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (6)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 13, 2008, 11:26:03 PM
It's long past time to deduct from Rendezvous with Rama.

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (1)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (2)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7) +1

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: DKT on November 13, 2008, 11:49:58 PM
Geez. And here I thought I was the only SF geek who didn't like Snow Crash...

George Orwell 1984  (6)+1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (4) + 1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5) -1
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (3) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (1)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (2)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7) +1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 02:10:36 AM
Skipping DKT's post, since it broke the rules.

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (8 ) +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (1)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (6)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (1) -1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 14, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (8 )
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0) -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7) +1
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (1)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 01:06:56 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)  +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (6)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7) 
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0) -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 14, 2008, 01:30:27 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5) -1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (3) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7) +1
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7) 
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 01:40:24 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (7)   
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)  +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (2)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (4)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7) 
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)


Sorry, I've heard Bradury read Fareheit 451, and he ruined it for me.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 14, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )  +1
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (2)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3) -1
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)


hahaha (8) don work 8) :D
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 04:36:13 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9) -1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (2)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5) + 1
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 14, 2008, 05:01:06 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (2)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (4) -1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (6)   +1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)





I just couldn't resist.  I really couldn't.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)    
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10) +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (1)  -1

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (4)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (6)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: DKT on November 14, 2008, 05:08:04 PM
Rules? Where we're going, we don't need rules!

But I'll try playing by them (for now, anyway).

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (2) + 1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (3) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)

[/quote]
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 05:11:16 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)     
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (11) +1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (1)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 05:48:38 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6) + 1
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)  -1
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (1) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)


[/quote]
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (11)  +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (5)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)

Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 05:51:57 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (6) + 1
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 05:57:23 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (11)  +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (2)  -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (6)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 05:57:57 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (2) 
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (7)  + 1
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)


[/quote]
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:01:49 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (11)  +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (1)  -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (7) 
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)



Viva la revolution!
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 06:03:25 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (1) 
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (8 ) + 1
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)


I'd vote down Rama myself, but then Stranger would end up with 12 points...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:06:03 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (11)  +1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (8 )
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)  -1



I just picked a book that I liked and figured was a dark horse.  Of course, you're getting the best of this exchange, as I'm picking off weak members from the herd...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 06:08:38 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 ) 
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (10)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9) + 1
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (7)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0) 


Well, I was having some fun syphoning off your votes, but too much of that can make this game rather pointless, so I'm stopping now.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 06:10:28 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (5)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (8) +1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)

We can just delete the last four off the list, since they've gone. And I'm sad that Farenheit 451 is gone- I really would prefer that to The Forever War.

Again, feel free to add any other books I've missed off, complete with five points.

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:10:37 PM
 ;D

I picked off the books I really wanted off the list.  I guess I'll let someone else have a turn.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 06:12:14 PM
I am really surprised by the fast and furious response to this. We might actually narrow it down to one, although more often than not the first ten items take a day to vanish, but the last one can take weeks... always very contentious.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 06:13:19 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (4) -1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (3)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) +1
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon (8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  (7)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)


Quote
We can just delete the last four off the list, since they've gone. And I'm sad that Farenheit 451 is gone- I really would prefer that to The Forever War.

Wouldn't it be best to leave them on, crossed-out, so people won't add them back in down the line?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:13:44 PM
I am really surprised by the fast and furious response to this. We might actually narrow it down to one, although more often than not the first ten items take a day to vanish, but the last one can take weeks... always very contentious.

I've got too much time on my hands.  (Too much time on my hands, too much time on my hands...)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 06:14:51 PM
I'm supposed to be the expert here... yes, we should do that. Sorry. Leave them struckout, then when we narrow it down to ten we can stop adding new ones (completely unfair at that point), and so erase them.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 06:16:12 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (4)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 ) +1
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)


Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:19:03 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (4)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (1) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (6) +1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)

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Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 06:21:28 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (3)  -1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2) +1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (6)
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)


Book added, and some life injected back to a book that's losing it too fast...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 06:26:28 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (5)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (3) 
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (6)
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (5)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (5)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)


Two more books added (no other changes to avoid a double move)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:28:51 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (4)  -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (3) 
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (7)  +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (5)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (5)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 06:30:19 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (4) 
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (2) -1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 8 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (7) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (5)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (6) + 1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 06:31:21 PM
Wow, look at that, I picked up a star goofing off over here.

Three of us posting at the same time was getting a little crazy.  Everytime I'd submit my corrected list, one of you beat me to it.

Ack!  Someone just posted again.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 06:50:48 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (4)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (1) -1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 ) +1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (7) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (5)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (6)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 06:51:38 PM
Gotta be the easiest way to increase your post count, BTW. I'm aiming for a respectable three.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 14, 2008, 07:01:07 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (9)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (4)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (1)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4) -1
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (7) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (6) +1
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (6)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 14, 2008, 07:08:40 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5) 
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (8) -1

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (4)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (1)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4) -1
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5) 
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5) 
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (7)
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (7) +1
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (6)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 07:11:48 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (8)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (1)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (8)   +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (7)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (6)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 14, 2008, 07:15:19 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)  +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7)   -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (1)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (5)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (8 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (7)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (6)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 07:18:34 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7) 
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (1)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (4) - 1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 8 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (8 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (7)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7) + 1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 07:19:55 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)  +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7)   -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)  
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (4)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9) +1
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (8 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (7)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)


Larry Niven Ringworld    (0)  -1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 07:21:19 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7) 
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (3) - 1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (9 ) +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (7)
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 14, 2008, 07:22:57 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7) 
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (2) - 1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy (9 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (8 ) + 1
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)

Zatharas missed Raving_lunatic's last move, so I incorporated it back in.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 07:27:30 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7) 
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (8 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (7) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (1) - 1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )  +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 14, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7) 
Frank Herbert Dune  (5)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 ) +1
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)  -1
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (1)
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 07:46:21 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (6) +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (5)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0) -1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 14, 2008, 07:52:23 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (6) +1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (5) -1

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6) +1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (1) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (5)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)  +1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (6)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)



Skipped Heradel, broke rules
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: DKT on November 14, 2008, 07:55:09 PM
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)   
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5) -1
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station (9) +1
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man(5)

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0) -1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


I'm starting to feel like my participation is pointless, but I love PSS enough to give it some pointless love.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 07:59:56 PM
Frank Herbert Dune  (6)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 ) -1
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6) +1

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0) -1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


Sorry.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 08:00:14 PM
I'm starting to feel like my participation is pointless, but I love PSS enough to give it some pointless love.

Other than eliminating a few selections, I wasn't trying to run away with this.  I know Stanger in a Strange Land is gonna get smacked down, and I'm ok with that.  I just wanted to lift it up for a while.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 08:02:52 PM
OFF TOPIC ALERT:

I remember when we did this for Kid A on the music messageboards, track by track... it ran to three hundred pages. The end result was that it was declared a draw between Everything In It's Right Place and Idioteque, both with 78 points. Insane.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 14, 2008, 08:06:52 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)   +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (1) -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  (5)
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)

Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0) -1
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


Sorry.
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Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 08:08:52 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)   +1
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (5)  
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
 
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 9 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 6 ) +1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0) -1
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


I just like doing this. hehehe.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 14, 2008, 08:14:29 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (4) -1
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)  
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 9 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 ) +1
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 6 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 08:19:22 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (4) -1
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (2) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 ) +1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 6 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 08:37:52 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (1) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 6 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 11 )  +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 08:38:58 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (1) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (6)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 7 ) +1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )  -1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (3) -1
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (1)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7) +1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 7 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 ) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 08:59:38 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (2) -1
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (2) +1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 7 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 ) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


Saved one from destruction, helped to doom another...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 14, 2008, 09:06:43 PM
Lunatic, you didn't adjust the numbers
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 14, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
Crumbs. Ah well, since it's just the two of us...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 15, 2008, 05:48:07 AM

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (1)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6) 
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6) 
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 6 ) -1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (7)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 ) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)


I hope it's OK to join late...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 15, 2008, 05:57:08 AM
Since the two I like least are already off the list (R w/ Rama and L H of Darkness) ... what to subtract from now?

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 6 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (8) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0) -1

(Sorry, Ike.)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 15, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
You could join when there are only two books left- your opinion is still valid.

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (2)-1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 7 ) +1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (8)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 15, 2008, 11:15:40 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (1) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 7 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (9) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 15, 2008, 11:33:48 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    (7)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (4)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 8 ) +1
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (9)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0) -1
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 16, 2008, 04:42:03 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 8 ) +1
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (3)   -1
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 8 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen (9)
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad (5)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 16, 2008, 10:44:40 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (7)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 8 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (3)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 8 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 8 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 6 ) +1

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 16, 2008, 03:20:30 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6) -1
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (6)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 8 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (3)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 8 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 9 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination (7)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man (6)
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 6 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 16, 2008, 03:36:40 PM
I think there are plenty of books to come off this list before Ender's Game.  It is one of the best Young Adult sci-fi books.

I don't think that strongly enough to give it a vote right now, though.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 03:46:56 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (6)
Frank Herbert Dune  (7)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (9 )
George Orwell 1984  (5)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (5) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (5)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (7)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 8 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (5)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (5)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (6)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (5)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (9)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (5)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (3)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (6)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 10 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 10 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (5)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 8 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 9 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 10 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 8 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 8 ) + 1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 6 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 6 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
[/quote]
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 16, 2008, 05:28:41 PM
Time for game speed-up. I will now halve the points, rounding down.

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (3)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (4 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (2)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (2)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (2)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (1)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (3)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (2)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 5 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)


This is just in order to get a result more quickly. I will do it again if the points get too inflated.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 05:39:00 PM
Did that count as a move? I'd play again but I'm not sure I'm supposed to.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 16, 2008, 06:00:45 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (3)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (4 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (2)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)  -1
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (2)   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   (1)   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   (3)
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (2)
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )  +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)


Ok, eytanz, take a turn
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 06:06:01 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (3)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (4 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (1) - 1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (2)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   ( 2 )   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  ( 2 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 ) + 1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 16, 2008, 06:09:48 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (3)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (4 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)   +1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (2)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   ( 2 )   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  ( 1 )  -1
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)


Edit::fixed typo on SiaSL
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 16, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (3)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  (4 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3) +1
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   ( 2 )   
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  ( 0 )
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 06:30:12 PM
Windup - you seem to have made a move based on an old game state...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 16, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
Windup - you seem to have made a move based on an old game state...
You're right, I did.  Must've forgotten to turn a page.  I've gone back and modified the original post so that it now comes off the preceding post.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 16, 2008, 06:45:57 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (3)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )  +1
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   ( 1 )  -1 
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  ( 0 )
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 16, 2008, 06:54:13 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4) +1
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (2)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 3 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 16, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (1)  -1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )  +1
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (2)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 ) +1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 16, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)  -1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )  +1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 16, 2008, 09:01:35 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2) -1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1) +1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)



Sorry to abuse my unfair powers once more, but I'm only going to allow one or two new books on the list before it gets "locked" as it were. There's still time, so if there's a book you feel must be in with a chance, start it up with three points.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: sirana on November 16, 2008, 09:44:06 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress +1   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 ) -1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 16, 2008, 10:05:43 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 16, 2008, 10:14:58 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (3) +1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
Brave New World should still be on the list with 1 point. Raving Lunatic gave it a point earlier but forgot to change the point total (it had 1, he gave it +1 but left it at 1).
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 16, 2008, 10:28:07 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 5 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 5 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 )  -1
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 ) +1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)


Corrected Brave New World (see my post above).
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 16, 2008, 11:58:27 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 ) +1
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 ) -1
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
I think there are plenty of books to come off this list before Ender's Game.  It is one of the best Young Adult sci-fi books.

Not my fault it's at the top of the list.  ;)

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (2) -1
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 5 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 5)
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 12:19:43 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 ) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)


Bdoomed posted based on an old game state, and StePH followed his. I'm posting a corrected version that incorporates changes from both (note that both books StePH voted for/against were affected); I haven't made a move here.

Could people playing this please take care to always check if there are future posts before posting? The way the forum works, it will take you to an old post if you haven't read them all, so it's easy to confuse things.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 17, 2008, 12:41:50 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 6 ) 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 12:44:57 AM
Bdoomed posted based on an old game state, and StePH followed his. I'm posting a corrected version that incorporates changes from both (note that both books StePH voted for/against were affected); I haven't made a move here.

Could people playing this please take care to always check if there are future posts before posting? The way the forum works, it will take you to an old post if you haven't read them all, so it's easy to confuse things.
I can't do much more than check to be sure that I'm playing based on the last post.  Whether it's accurate or not is up to the previous poster.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 12:46:25 AM
Bdoomed posted based on an old game state, and StePH followed his. I'm posting a corrected version that incorporates changes from both (note that both books StePH voted for/against were affected); I haven't made a move here.

Could people playing this please take care to always check if there are future posts before posting? The way the forum works, it will take you to an old post if you haven't read them all, so it's easy to confuse things.
I can't do much more than check to be sure that I'm playing based on the last post.  Whether it's accurate or not is up to the previous poster.

True - the problem wasn't with your posting, it was with Bdoomed, but other people have done the same. I wouldn't have noticed except that I was surprised how Ender's Game got to 2 and I checked.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 01:44:38 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (3)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 2 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   +1 
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 17, 2008, 03:39:58 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4) +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 1 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 ) 
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 04:13:02 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (3) -1
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 2 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 04:16:23 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4) +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 1 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)


Felt the need to be contrary
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 04:20:16 AM
Fine.

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (2) -1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 2 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)

Maybe I should just deduct from the ones I haven't read.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 04:22:09 AM
Your reward?  A vote for your choice!


Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (1) -1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 04:36:11 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (1)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (3) -1
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers      (0)

Full disclosure: I'd never heard of Hyperion prior to its introduction to this thread.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 17, 2008, 04:38:24 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (2) +1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 08:37:29 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (2)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (2) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4) +1
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)

If Hyperion goes before Stranger, that's an utter travesty.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 17, 2008, 11:24:56 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3) +1
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (1) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 11:41:32 AM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 ) +1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (1)

Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)


Mind you, Stranger is a very good book, but it's surpassed by every book on that list which I've read.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 17, 2008, 12:22:51 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (4) +1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (4)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)   
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0) -1


Nineteen Eighty Four is the better of the two. Anthem (Rand's, not Stephenson's Anathem) has similar themes but doesn't match it either, and it ends on a hopeful note.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 17, 2008, 01:01:01 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (4)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5) +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (3) -1
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)  
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (1)
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )  
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 17, 2008, 02:04:52 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (4)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4) +1
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)  
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )  
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 02:07:22 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3) -1
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   (3)  
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )  
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land  (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End    (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 02:11:08 PM
Ack!  I don't know which one to take away from...

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 5 )  +1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   ( 2 )   -1
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )  
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )  
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)


I have no problem with Stanger in a Strange Land being gone now, I was about to start taking points away from it myself!

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 17, 2008, 02:27:42 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (2)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 6 )  +1
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   ( 2 )
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 3 ) -1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 17, 2008, 02:29:59 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (1) -1
William Gibson Neuromancer      (5)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 6 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   ( 2 )
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 ) +1
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: sirana on November 17, 2008, 03:09:36 PM

Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (1)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6) +1
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 6 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   ( 2 )
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 6 ) -1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men (5)


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)

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Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 04:02:45 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (4)
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (1)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 6 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   ( 2 )
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 1 )   
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 ) +1
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men ( 4 ) -1


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 04:36:55 PM
Orson Scott Card Ender's Game  (5)  +1
Frank Herbert Dune  (4)
Douglas Adams Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy  ( 6 )
George Orwell 1984  (3)
Isaac Asimov I, Robot     (1)
William Gibson Neuromancer      (6)
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?    ( 6 )
Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress   (4)
H G Wells The War of the Worlds   ( 2 )
Dan Simmons Hyperion    (4)
Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five   ( 3 )
Daniel Keys Flowers For Algernon ( 4 )
Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle  ( 5 )
Frederik Pohl Gateway  ( 4 )
C.J. Cherryh Cyteen ( 4 )
Robert A Heinlein  Citizen of the Galaxy ( 7 )   
China Mieville Perdido Street Station ( 4 )
Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination ( 7 )
Alfred Bester The Demolished Man ( 4 )
Stanislaw Lem The Cyberiad ( 3 )
Olaf Stapledon The Last and First Men ( 4 )


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 0 )


I'm just picking off books now...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: deflective on November 17, 2008, 05:00:17 PM
gotta pull it back from the brink. not a particular favourite now, but for the sake of early teenage memories.
edit: actually it was eliminated entirely, didn't notice during my edit. i'm bringing it back to be knocked off again

( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
-1 ( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
+1 ( 1 ) Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
( 1 ) I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Aldous Huxley Brave New World     (0)
Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End     (0)
Joe Haldeman The Forever War   ( 0 )
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 05:04:16 PM
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
( 2 ) Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
( 1 ) I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)



Just fixing deflective's miss of some eliminated books
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 05:10:38 PM
Wait, how did Stranger end up back on the list? And with 2 points, no less?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: deflective on November 17, 2008, 05:11:05 PM
see that now. there was a lot of activity during my edit.
my last post is correct now.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 17, 2008, 05:12:51 PM
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick +1
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert -1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
( 2 ) Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
( 1 ) I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers   (0)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 05:15:07 PM
Well, correct except for what I think is an illegal move. I'm getting rid of the spurious point Stranger got, but am treating it as bumped back.

( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons + 1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
( 1 ) I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: deflective on November 17, 2008, 05:18:40 PM
sigh, oh well. all that work and i still loose the childhood memories. ain't that always the way tho?
at least give the point back to the right book.

( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons - 1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
( 1 ) I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey    (0)
The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
H G Wells The Time Machine    (0)
Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead   (0)
Neal Stephenson Snow Crash    (0)
Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness   (0)
Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451   (0)
Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama    (0)
Larry Niven Ringworld      (0)
Isaac Asimov Foundation  (0)
Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel  (0)
Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles   (0)
Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 05:27:39 PM
I sorted the eliminated ones by order of elimination.

( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons + 1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 17, 2008, 05:51:34 PM
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 1 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells  -1

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov



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Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 17, 2008, 07:19:07 PM
Just wanna reitirate to new posters: NO "dead" books can be reborn. Thanks for ordering the list. This makes the game easier in a way.


( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein -1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys +1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
# 19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells  -1


Tell me if you want the points halved again.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 17, 2008, 07:39:18 PM
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh -1
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
# 19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells  -1

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 17, 2008, 07:45:16 PM
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh -1



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
# 19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 07:54:16 PM
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys -1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem + 1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 2 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells 

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 17, 2008, 08:02:26 PM
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 5 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys  +1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 1 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh -1



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 08:15:40 PM
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys  -1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 2 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh +1



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 17, 2008, 08:22:32 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 6 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys  -1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 2 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 17, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 2) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys  -1
( 2 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 17, 2008, 09:34:39 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys  +1
( 1 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh -1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 17, 2008, 09:36:48 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 7 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick +1
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 17, 2008, 09:38:41 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 7 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert -1
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys +1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 17, 2008, 10:42:43 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick -1
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut


 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh -1

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 18, 2008, 01:02:51 AM

( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl -1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) The War of the Worlds - H G Wells +1

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov


I just can't let a classic go down before some of the other books on the list...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 18, 2008, 01:15:54 AM
Windup played from an old state, and since he voted for an eliminated book, I don't think his move is recoverable, so I'll ignore it.

( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons + 1
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson - 1
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 18, 2008, 03:13:00 AM


( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams  +1
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville  -1
( 2 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 18, 2008, 05:10:28 AM

Windup played from an old state, and since he voted for an eliminated book, I don't think his move is recoverable, so I'll ignore it.


Sheesh... I'm going to give this up and go do something I can handle, like the "Pointless, brainless argument" thread....   :-[
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 18, 2008, 06:32:45 AM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys -1
( 3 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut +1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wherethewild on November 18, 2008, 08:21:48 AM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 5) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 2 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville -1

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 18, 2008, 10:23:35 AM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick -1
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 2 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh



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Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 18, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein +1
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 3 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 1 ) Perdido Street Station - China Mieville  -1

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 18, 2008, 04:56:38 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein +1
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys +1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut

17 Books Remain.


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: tpi on November 18, 2008, 05:58:09 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card +1
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert -1
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys +1
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut

17 Books Remain.


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 18, 2008, 07:15:46 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams +1
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut
( 3 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein -1

17 Books Remain.


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 18, 2008, 07:46:08 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein +1
( 2 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut  -1

17 Books Remain.


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 19, 2008, 02:12:45 AM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein -1
( 2 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut 

17 Books Remain.


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 19, 2008, 04:41:21 AM
Along these lines, what was the book about a man being conscripted onto a spaceship?  It was an unpopular job because centuries would pass on planets while only months passed for the members of the ship.  I could go into more detail, but I don't want to be spoilerish.  For some reason, I want to say it was a Heinlein book, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 19, 2008, 02:15:43 PM
Along these lines, what was the book about a man being conscripted onto a spaceship?  It was an unpopular job because centuries would pass on planets while only months passed for the members of the ship.  I could go into more detail, but I don't want to be spoilerish.  For some reason, I want to say it was a Heinlein book, but I'm not sure.

The Forever War by Joe Haldeman.  I like to recommend it to anyone who's read Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 19, 2008, 02:31:23 PM
Along these lines, what was the book about a man being conscripted onto a spaceship?  It was an unpopular job because centuries would pass on planets while only months passed for the members of the ship.  I could go into more detail, but I don't want to be spoilerish.  For some reason, I want to say it was a Heinlein book, but I'm not sure.

The Forever War by Joe Haldeman.  I like to recommend it to anyone who's read Heinlein's Starship Troopers.

That wasn't the book I was thinking of, but I wikied it, and it's on my list now.  Thanks, your recommendations are usually good ones!

In the book I'm thinking of, it was a merchant ship.  They returned to Earth about 80 years Earth time after they left.  The conscript was grabbed at a bar just before his wedding.  When they came back, his fiancee was, of course, old. 

Ack, now it's gonna drive me crazier than I already am.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 19, 2008, 04:47:42 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  +1
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 4 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 3 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
( 1 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   -1

17 Books Remain.


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 19, 2008, 07:24:51 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  +1
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys +1
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein -1
( 1 ) Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   




#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 19, 2008, 07:37:02 PM
At this point, any book that gets down to 1 is my target.


( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   +1
( 8 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 6 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 6 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 5 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 5 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 4 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 4 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 4 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein





#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 19, 2008, 07:38:32 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 2 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 1 ) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville 
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   


I cut the point in half to speed things up again. We WILL get a result.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 20, 2008, 12:46:04 AM
Thanks, your recommendations are usually good ones!

Wow, that's the nicest thing anybody's said to me all week.  :)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 20, 2008, 02:08:47 AM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 2 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 20, 2008, 02:55:48 AM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick +1
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert -1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 2 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 20, 2008, 04:21:27 AM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 4 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick +1
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert -1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons -1
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 2 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein



I thought only one move at a time was permitted.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 20, 2008, 04:53:19 AM
I thought only one move at a time was permitted.

Arg, right, need to not do things whilst breaking from writing papers. Fixed.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 20, 2008, 06:24:54 AM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams +1
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 1 ) The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon -1
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 07:08:34 AM
Got to give it a little more love.  I know it's doomed...

( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  
( 5 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  +1
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  +1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon



Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 12:10:57 PM

( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson  +1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem  -1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon




Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 20, 2008, 12:20:39 PM
I can't kill off poor Lem.  I just can't bring myself to do it...

( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein -1
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 12:55:49 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem  + 1
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 1 ) Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys -1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 01:06:14 PM

( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 5 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 5 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein +1 
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem 
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: cuddlebug on November 20, 2008, 01:11:06 PM
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams +1
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell -1
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick -1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 01:21:25 PM
( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 1 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick -1



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 20, 2008, 01:32:03 PM
Edit: Too slow...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 01:40:07 PM
Wintermute's move:

( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem +1
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  -1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
( 1 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 01:52:43 PM
( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 1 ) The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester -1
( 1 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 


Not that The Demolished Man isn't a great book, perhaps better than some of the other competitions still in it, but there's really a clear choice for which Bester book deserves to win this (and hopefully, will).
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 02:23:22 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 1 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester 


I hate to give a book too big of a lead right now, but...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 03:01:43 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 6 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1 
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  +1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 1 ) The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester 



Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 03:11:58 PM

( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams  +1
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein   
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl




#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester 
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick



Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 20, 2008, 03:32:46 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick +1
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein   
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  -1
( 2 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl




#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick


fixed mistake
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 20, 2008, 03:44:11 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams +1
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein   
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 
( 1 ) Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card -1
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl




#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 20, 2008, 04:33:50 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein   
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl +1

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card -1

I'm sad to say some of my favourite ever books have been eliminated, and I am surprised that The Cyberiad and Hyperion are still around.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 04:39:42 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein   
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson - 1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card



I'm sad to say some of my favourite ever books have been eliminated, and I am surprised that The Cyberiad and Hyperion are still around.

Surprised because you don't think they belong, or because you didn't expect them to stay that long?

I'm a bit surprised that Cyberiad stayed that long because it is quite difficult to get a hold of in mainstream bookstores, but I think it belongs in the top-10. Hyperion I'm less surprised about; I think, like Dune, it suffers because of its string of lackluster sequels, but it itself is a masterwork.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 05:04:07 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein    +1
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
(  ) Dune - Frank Herbert   -1
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card


Just a little more life for it...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 05:18:38 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1  
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson  -1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 20, 2008, 05:23:24 PM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester -1
( 8 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

I'm going to cut the points in half again in a bit. Sorry that I keep doing that.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 05:28:54 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams -1
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card


I don't think this is a good time for a point-cut, as it will obscure differences that are quite significant.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 05:54:09 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   +1
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 06:00:11 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons +1
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 06:46:32 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   +1
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell   -1

( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 20, 2008, 07:02:52 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert -1
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein 
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson  +1

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 07:28:06 PM

( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  +1
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl  -1

( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
 ( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card



Aiming for top 7, then I'll vote it off myself.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 07:36:52 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1
( 2 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl 
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
 ( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 

#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 07:42:35 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  +1
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 
( 1 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl -1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
Zatharas forgot to actually add the point to Citizen, so the tally doesn't change when I take it away.

( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 
( 1 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 07:48:41 PM
( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 
( 1 ) Gateway - Frederik Pohl
( 1 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1


#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 07:49:17 PM
Thanks, Eytanz, it gets a little cumbersome after a while.

( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  +1
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
#29 Gateway - Frederik Pohl

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 20, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 4 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell +1
( 2 ) Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
#29 Gateway - Frederik Pohl
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 07:51:46 PM
And now Heradel forgot to deduct his point...

( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons + 1
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) 1984 - George Orwell
( 2 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
#29 Gateway - Frederik Pohl
#30 Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 07:53:40 PM
damn you and your speed!  Now I go for chaos!

( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 2 ) 1984 - George Orwell -1
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson  +1




#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
#29 Gateway - Frederik Pohl
#30 Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein  -1


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Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 08:11:07 PM
( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 6 ) Dune - Frank Herbert +1
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 
( 1 ) 1984 - George Orwell -1



#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
#29 Gateway - Frederik Pohl
#30 Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 08:19:42 PM
( 11 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 7 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
(6 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 5 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1
( 3 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 3 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson 




#1 Snow Crash  - Neal Stephenson
#2 The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula K Le Guin
#3 Fahrenheit 451  - Ray Bradbury
#4 Rendezvous With Rama  - Arthur C Clarke
#5 Ringworld  - Larry Niven
#6 Speaker for the Dead   - Orson Scott Card
#7 The Time Machine  - H G Wells
#8 Foundation  - Isaac Asimov
#9 2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C Clarke
#10 The Caves of Steel - Isaac Asimov
#11 The Martian Chronicles - Ray Bradbury
#12 Starship Troopers  - Robert A Heinlein
#13 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
#14 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein
#15 Childhood's End - Arthur C Clarke
#16 The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
#17 Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A Heinlein (second elimination)
#18 I, Robot - Isaac Asimov
#19 The War of the Worlds - H G Wells
#20 Cyteen - C.J. Cherryh
#21 Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
#22 Slaughterhouse Five - Kurt Vonnegut   
#23 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A Heinlein
#24 The Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
#25 Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keys 
#26 The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
#27 The Man in the High Castle - Philip K Dick
#28 Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card
#29 Gateway - Frederik Pohl
#30 Citizen of the Galaxy - Robert A Heinlein
#31 1984 - George Orwell -1


[/quote]
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 20, 2008, 09:59:09 PM
NO NEW BOOKS TO BE ADDED AT THIS POINT

( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 3 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick   
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson

I gave TSMD an extra point since it was so far ahead.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:07:43 PM
Probably should have just rounded them all up or waited to halve them
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
( 3 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   +1
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 1 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1 
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson

I gave TSMD an extra point since it was so far ahead.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:16:25 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   -1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 3 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick   +1
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
( 1 ) Neuromancer - William Gibson

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:17:32 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   +1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 3 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick 
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 20, 2008, 10:20:14 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   +1
( 2 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams   -1
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick 
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:22:14 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   -1
( 5 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 2 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:23:20 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   +1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   -1
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 2 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:24:44 PM

( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   -1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick +1
( 2 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:26:23 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   +1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 1 ) Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams -1
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:29:51 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams -1


total correct?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:31:14 PM
Sorry, my totals were wrong in my last post.

( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester   +1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons
( 1 ) The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem

#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:34:07 PM
Not the first time it's happened to someone.

( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons


#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem



Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:36:42 PM
Oh, poor Lem, I really wanted him to beat Dick. But at this point, I have to play my favorite.

( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  +1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1
( 2 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons


#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem




[/quote]
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:38:20 PM
(8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1
( 1 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons -1


#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem




Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:39:31 PM
(9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  + 1
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 4 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1
( 1 ) Hyperion - Dan Simmons


#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:40:56 PM
(9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 4 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1



#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
#35 Hyperion - Dan Simmons



Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:41:45 PM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  + 1
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert   -1
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick 



#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
#35 Hyperion - Dan Simmons


Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 20, 2008, 10:42:01 PM
Stopping for now, as we're just gonna switch +'s and -'s
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 20, 2008, 10:44:00 PM
Stopping for now, as we're just gonna switch +'s and -'s

Yeah, I agree. I think I'll step away from this game for now, let other people play for a while.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 21, 2008, 04:01:59 AM
noooooooooo Hitchhiker's Guide died!

i have no more will to live! *boom* *thump*
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 21, 2008, 05:30:46 AM

noooooooooo Hitchhiker's Guide died!

i have no more will to live! *boom* *thump*


You're just Bdoomed, Bdoomed I say!!!   ;D

<<sorrry>>
<<OK, not really...>>
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: sirana on November 21, 2008, 07:45:37 AM
( 9 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  -1
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1



#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
#35 Hyperion - Dan Simmons



Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: tpi on November 21, 2008, 07:59:49 AM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester  +1
( 6 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick 
( 2 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  -1


#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
#35 Hyperion - Dan Simmons
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 21, 2008, 08:03:12 AM
( 10 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 5 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1
( 3 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  +1


#32 Neuromancer - William Gibson
#33 Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
#34 The Cyberiad - Stanislaw Lem
#35 Hyperion - Dan Simmons

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 21, 2008, 12:38:04 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick 
( 1 ) Dune - Frank Herbert 

Cut The Kids in Half...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: wintermute on November 21, 2008, 12:50:19 PM
( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester 
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1

( 0 ) Dune - Frank Herbert  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 21, 2008, 01:47:29 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 2 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: CGFxColONeill on November 21, 2008, 02:42:53 PM
hate to say this here but I have not read either of those *ducks and covers*
which one should I read first?
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 21, 2008, 03:23:58 PM
hate to say this here but I have not read either of those *ducks and covers*
which one should I read first?

Tough call there.  Blade Runner was based off of Sheep, and there is the Phillip K. Dick Sci-fi award, so I would probably tell you to go for that one.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 21, 2008, 04:43:18 PM
It's come down to this. Soon we will be able to announce the victor.

( 5 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester -1
( 3 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  +1

But it won't be TSMD, because PKD is my favourite author. So sorry, Alf.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 21, 2008, 06:07:35 PM
( 6 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
(2) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 21, 2008, 06:09:52 PM
hate to say this here but I have not read either of those *ducks and covers*
which one should I read first?

Both are well worth reading, in any order. I think the correct answer is "whichever one you can get your hands on first".
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 21, 2008, 07:33:25 PM
hate to say this here but I have not read either of those *ducks and covers*
which one should I read first?

Both are well worth reading, in any order. I think the correct answer is "whichever one you can get your hands on first".

I get to spend 2.5 weeks on Blade Runner/Androids next semester, granted I've read Androids twice and saw the Final Cut in a theater.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 22, 2008, 02:00:44 PM
I should point out for the sake of those that saw blade runner but didn't read the book - the movie is a very loose adaptation. Both movie and book are great but they are pretty different.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 22, 2008, 03:35:52 PM
I should point out for the sake of those that saw blade runner but didn't read the book - the movie is a very loose adaptation.

This is the case for every film adapted from PKD up until A Scanner DarklyTotal Recall and Minority Report are particular standouts; they have only a basic premise and a couple of character names in common with their source stories.  (I haven't seen Paycheck yet.)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 22, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
A Scanner Darkly is an amazing book, BTW.

I love PKD, but I guess there is only one way this can end:

( 7 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1
( 1 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1

I'm so sorry...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 23, 2008, 08:49:35 PM
Don't like to bump, but I feel this should get finished...
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Russell Nash on November 23, 2008, 08:53:25 PM
I haven't read one of them, so I don't feel I can finish this off.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 23, 2008, 09:47:26 PM
Oh, ok:

( 8 ) The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester +1

#37 ( 0 ) Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K Dick  -1

I didn't want to play the last move since I had already fed so many points to the winner, but since I honestly believe it deserves the win, here goes.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 24, 2008, 04:18:54 AM
Whatever.  I quit caring when the real best book got ganged up on and murdered last week.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Heradel on November 24, 2008, 04:30:36 AM
Whatever.  I quit caring when the real best book got ganged up on and murdered last week.

Your personal best book. There's a difference. I would have liked 1984 to win, but it didn't.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Zathras on November 24, 2008, 05:28:12 AM
Whatever.  I quit caring when the real best book got ganged up on and murdered last week.

It's not exactly the best format for deciding this.  As was demonstrated on multiple occasions, all it takes is 2 people not working against each other to skew the results.  I freely admit that at times I was just picking off weak entries or creating chaos.

Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Bdoomed on November 24, 2008, 05:29:17 AM
HHG shoulda won.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 24, 2008, 05:48:08 AM
I should point out for the sake of those that saw blade runner but didn't read the book - the movie is a very loose adaptation.

This is the case for every film adapted from PKD up until A Scanner DarklyTotal Recall and Minority Report are particular standouts; they have only a basic premise and a couple of character names in common with their source stories.  (I haven't seen Paycheck yet.)

In the cases of both Blade Runner and Minority Report -- especially the latter -- I thought the movies were better than the stories they were based on, which is very unusual for me.  PKD's Minority Report was a straightforward logic puzzle about the implications of a limited ability to know the future; the movie really grappled with the social implications of the technology.  I found Androids just plain hard to follow, though the audiobook format may have been part of the problem.  But I love Blade Runner.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 24, 2008, 07:52:42 AM
Whatever.  I quit caring when the real best book got ganged up on and murdered last week.

It's not exactly the best format for deciding this.  As was demonstrated on multiple occasions, all it takes is 2 people not working against each other to skew the results.  I freely admit that at times I was just picking off weak entries or creating chaos.

Of course it isn't a good way to decide the best book - though I was trying to play as honestly (based on my own opinions) as possible. But this game definitely is skewed towards people who are playing aggressively, like Zatharas and I did, by posting immediately after anyone else does (and that become really easy if there are 2 peope like that playing at once), it is skewed towards early votes, as it's impossible to recover from being knocked off, and the arbitrary point halvings meant that it was skewed towards people who were online around the same time raving_lunatic was.

At the end this was basically a game of tug-o'-war played on book titles rather than with a rope. It was amusing, but not something anyone should take seriously, I would think.

That said, at least some people (including myself) seem to have been directed towards reading some books they would otherwise many not had tried thanks to it, so I would think it was worthwhile.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 24, 2008, 10:04:33 AM
I'd never dream of saying this was definitive. It's just a bit of fun.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 24, 2008, 02:18:06 PM
Whatever.  I quit caring when the real best book got ganged up on and murdered last week.

Your personal best book. There's a difference. I would have liked 1984 to win, but it didn't.

Says the person who almost singlehandedly murdered my book  ;)
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 24, 2008, 11:55:46 PM

That said, at least some people (including myself) seem to have been directed towards reading some books they would otherwise many not had tried thanks to it, so I would think it was worthwhile.


Yeah, I'll 'fess up and admit that I've never read The Stars My Destination, and now I probably will.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: deflective on November 25, 2008, 12:37:17 AM
apparently eytanz has convinced a lot of us to give it a try.

the local library doesn't even have a copy, guess i'll have to get a copy and donate it.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: cuddlebug on November 25, 2008, 10:36:16 AM
apparently eytanz has convinced a lot of us to give it a try.

the local library doesn't even have a copy, guess i'll have to get a copy and donate it.

He has certainly convinced me and I went and bought a copy,

... in fact he did such a good job of it that I now have TWO COPIES, not realizing I already had it on my bookshelf for some time.

So if someone wants one, let me know, and we'll figure something out (maybe a swap?). Or I'll just return it to the bookshop and get another one, already have Dick's 'Androids and Electric sheep', but want to read 'Flowers for Algernon' as well. Oh and I haven't read 'Hyperion' either.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Corydon on November 25, 2008, 01:22:17 PM
The Stars My Destination is really good, and most definitely worth your time.  I'm happy to see it win (I'm aware of the limitations of this contest; it was still fun.)  I'll confess to holding a minority opinion: I think that the Demolished Man is a better novel.  And, actually, I enjoy Bester's short stories better still. 

I've never read Gateway, and this thread has reminded me of that.  So I'm off to find a copy this weekend, hooray!

edited to add: never read Cyteen, either.  That doesn't appeal to me quite as much, but maybe I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: eytanz on November 25, 2008, 02:15:12 PM
I've never read Gateway, and this thread has reminded me of that.  So I'm off to find a copy this weekend, hooray!

edited to add: never read Cyteen, either.  That doesn't appeal to me quite as much, but maybe I'll give it a shot.

Same here, for both of them; or more accurately, I read bits of Gateway when I was in my early teens and wasn't particularly interested in it; I should really try again. Cyteen is on my to-read list, and has been for a while; I should bump it up.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 25, 2008, 02:18:58 PM
Cyteen is on my to-read list, and has been for a while; I should bump it up.

Lots of people, even Cherryh fans, claim to have bounced off that novel -- the first sixty or so pages seem to be a sticking point (mostly involving a council meeting and general political set-up).  But I ate the whole thing up with a spoon.

By contrast, I bounced off of The Lord of the Rings and Dune at least twice each before I was able to finish them.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on November 25, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
Gateway is good, hyperion I have three copies, all unread, and Flowers for Algernon is one of my favourite books of all time. Very worth a read, if that makes sense. I recently re-read The Stars My Destination.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Windup on November 26, 2008, 03:33:28 AM


Gateway is good...


I remember reading it when I was in high school; I think it was a Science Fiction Book Club edition.  I remember not liking it all that well, particularly the ending.  Potential Spoiler, quote to read: The idea of making an emotional connection with the implications time dialation just seemed too far-fetched. 
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: stePH on November 26, 2008, 05:26:59 AM


Gateway is good...


I remember reading it when I was in high school; I think it was a Science Fiction Book Club edition.  I remember not liking it all that well, particularly the ending. 

I haven't read it, but I have it and the three follow-up volumes in my personal collection.  I've heard from some that it's better without the sequels.
Title: Re: Best SF Book of all time?
Post by: Raving_Lunatic on March 13, 2009, 05:30:31 PM
OK, I'm tempted to start this up again. if anyone's interested, here's the plan: Everyone makes lists, and those that get mentioned the most go into the eventual final list which we play the game with.