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Title: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: eytanz on July 06, 2012, 08:16:34 PM
EP352 Food for Thought (http://escapepod.org/2012/07/06/ep352-food-for-thought/)

By Laura Lee McArdle

Read by Christiana Ellis

An Escape Pod Original!

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He didn’t look much like the humans I knew—their eyes squinting out of wind-burnt faces from atop the backs of their rude horses. This one had a face like butter, not a wrinkle to be seen. And he didn’t arrive on a horse, rude or otherwise, just popped out of thin air and started talking to me. Not at me. To me.

“Slow down,” I said flicking a fly off my broad backside. “Wilfred, right? You are responsible for the fence posts?”

“Yeah sure,” said Wilfred. “Now listen to me. I just need a thirty second vignette when I say ‘action’. Can you do that for me?

“Sure,” I said. I love to talk about myself.

“You heard the animal,” he shouted to no one I could see. “Food For Thought, take one. Action!”

“Uh, Bess here. Folks call me the conspiracy theorist.  And I laugh.  But honestly if you don’t spend some time speculating out here what are you going to do?  Me, I walk the fence, count the posts and calculate trigonometric functions.  And I am convinced there is a way to get my 1200 lb bulk past these 4000 odd posts and reams of barbed wire.

By the way, I’ve come pretty far with the weight issue, thank you very much. The secret is small frequent meals, so I pretty much eat a little bit all the time when I’m not counting posts.  The other trick, that I don’t think any of my sisters have clocked on to, is to just not use stomachs three and four. Sure it takes practice, even surgery for lesser minds, but if you don’t have a project out here you will simply go
mad.

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Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Cutter McKay on July 07, 2012, 12:01:21 AM
Well, I'll start this one off by saying it was just fun. Stupid, but fun. I enjoyed the lightness of it, the many bovine references, like inferring that boredom will cause the cows to go mad, ie mad cow disease. Funny. And the ending line actually made me laugh aloud.

I liked it.

(Look, I kept it short)
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Dem on July 09, 2012, 01:13:44 PM
Bonkers! Disbelief suspended so high it got vertigo ;D
So where do I get a mathematically savant cow, then? My accounts are in a mess.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Unblinking on July 09, 2012, 01:53:26 PM
A very fun idea.  The savant cow reminded me of Terry Pratchett's camels which when they're outwardly appearing to be stubborn are internally computing complex mathematics.

I found the idea and the conversations with the cow entertaining.  "In the future wars are purely psychological!!"

And the ending line actually made me laugh aloud.

Uhhhh.... so, could you explain to me what the ending line meant?  I thought I was understanding everything until that line, which I couldn't figure out.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Pirvonen on July 09, 2012, 03:16:38 PM
A charming concept. A truly lovely twist ending!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Cutter McKay on July 09, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
Uhhhh.... so, could you explain to me what the ending line meant?  I thought I was understanding everything until that line, which I couldn't figure out.

To be honest, I'm not entirely certain I understand it either. The reason it made me laugh was because it so clashed with my expectations. Here our bovine protag is faced with a time traveling bull from the future, and I'm expecting some line like, "We received your distress call and are here to help", or "We've come to aid you, fellow cow", or some other such predictable statement. Instead, we get a reference to fulfilling some loop in the space/time continuum. I assume this is the author's way of plugging any sort of plot hole that may be caused by the time traveling cow. It made me laugh because it's almost like the bull is speaking to the reader rather than the cow, which yes, is typically bad in a story, but within this inane tale, it fit perfectly.

Maybe I missed the real point, but that's how I took it and it made me laugh.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: InfiniteMonkey on July 09, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
I thought this was hilarious, especially with the twist. And I loved the completely un-PC over-the-top effeminate TV producer. Who really deserved to be sat on by a cow.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Pirvonen on July 10, 2012, 08:09:24 AM
I thought the bull meant that to get to a world of sapient bovines, he needs to rescue the original pinnacle of cow cogitation. Unlike McKay, I did not originally see it as meta but completely within-universe logical step.

Taking it as meta, it works rather nicely, too.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: matweller on July 10, 2012, 01:02:18 PM
I thought the bull meant that to get to a world of sapient bovines, he needs to rescue the original pinnacle of cow cogitation.

Something of a bovine Star Trek 4 scenario... :P
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Unblinking on July 10, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
It made me laugh because it's almost like the bull is speaking to the reader rather than the cow, which yes, is typically bad in a story, but within this inane tale, it fit perfectly.

Talking to the reader doesn't bother me in certain circumstances, and the end line of a silly story like this is a decent place for it (if that's what it indeed was).
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Scatcatpdx on July 10, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
The first thing that popped into my mind was an unwilling Dish of the Day. (I let you guess what I am talking about)
I enjoyed the digs at narcissistic producers and reality TV.  Still the abrupt ending  did not sit well with me , it like an incomplete  punch line.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Devoted135 on July 10, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
I found this to be huuuumorously light-hearted and thus was quite amuuuuuused throuuuuughout. The ending line did sort of throw me, but I like both the meta and the cow cognition explanations, so I'm willing to roll with it. :)

What does Escape Pod mean when it says to "have fun"? This story embodies the sentiment.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Chris Turner on July 10, 2012, 09:11:06 PM
I really loved this story. I've been listening to Escape Pod for a couple of years but this was so entertaining and funny. I also loved the narration by Cristiana Ellis - could have been made by Pixar.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: SF.Fangirl on July 11, 2012, 01:31:39 AM
 ;) Silly, fun, and enjoyable.  I took the last line, in story, to mean that Bess's dive into the time portal eventually led to her becoming the mother of the bovine species that becomes the masters of the earth (Planet of the Cows) and this rescue was the start of it all.  Causality loop closed!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Cutter McKay on July 11, 2012, 03:11:52 AM
- could have been made by Pixar.

Without the F-Bombs and such, of course...  ;D
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Max e^{i pi} on July 12, 2012, 08:25:34 AM
A very fun idea.  The savant cow reminded me of Terry Pratchett's camels which when they're outwardly appearing to be stubborn are internally computing complex mathematics.
At first I thought it WAS a camel. But then I got the bovine references.

The first thing that popped into my mind was an unwilling Dish of the Day. (I let You GUESS what I am talking about)
When Wilfred came and explained the reality TV thing that was my thought too. I also groaned inwardly and immediately began to hate Wilfred because I despise reality TV and everything related to it.

Uhhhh.... so, could you explain to me what the ending line meant?  I thought I was understanding everything until that line, which I couldn't figure out.
A causality loop is a kind of logical impossibility where a series of events constantly triggers itself. Sort of like a chicken and the egg problem. Which came first? One way to solve it would be with a causality loop. The chicken comes back in time, and lays the egg from which it hatches so that it can lay its own egg.
The space-faring bovine seemed to think that he (she?) was here in order to maintain some sort of causality loop that eventually leads to the existence of a space-faring bovine race. Simply put: Bess is the matriarch of hyperintelligent cows. If she dies in this gun fight, there are no hyperintelligent cows. So they send a spaceship back in time to rescue her so that she can get on with producing a race of hyperintelligent cows so that they will be able to eventually go back in time and save her from dying so that.... and so on.

An excellent ending for a time traveling story in my opinion.
The rest of the story was rather silly, but fun.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: aceofwands on July 12, 2012, 12:14:02 PM
My heart sank the minute this began.  The weird bedtime story tone, even before it emerged that this was kinda in character, because apparently that's what you do when it's the internal monologue of a cow, just telegraphed everyone involved thought this was kinda a riot.  Not a good place to start the day.

But I waded in anyway - hey, I was stuck in the car till I got to work - and it turned out it wasn't just mommy doing funny animal voices and there was some reality TV satire and they were hanging a few lampshades ontime travel conventions. Maybe this commute wasn't going to turn out too bad after all.

And then it turns out there wasn't really an ending, somebody just ran out of better ideas and pulled the lid off some canned deus ex machina.

Sometimes funny just idn't. Sigh.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: El Barto on July 13, 2012, 11:56:23 PM
I like how every now and then Escape Pod runs this kind of silly fun story that actually has a meaty little twist.  (Pun intended.)

This seemed so vapid at first but then it turned into an origin story for an entire species and timeline -- one that was supposedly going to be a dead end (for humans) but then the transport mixup resulted in the lead cow character being the "Eve" for a space-faring bovine species.

Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: eytanz on July 15, 2012, 08:57:26 AM
Moderator's note: I've moved the posts about dissatisfaction with EP's general direction to their own thread (http://forum.escapeartists.net/index.php?topic=6290.0). Please continue that discussion there, and keep this thread to being about episode 352 itself. Thanks!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Listener on July 16, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
I found this story pretty hilarious, and I appreciated the little vocal cues the narrator put in to remind us that this was a cow we were listening to.

I realize the cow was sentient, or at least pre-sentient, but she had an awfully big fixation on hitting Wilfred in the crotch. Is that a Thing cows are doing now?

I liked the image of the cow-savior coming to save his ancestor. The gunfight was a little strange and off-putting, but I listened "around" it.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Talia on July 17, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
Put me in mind of Dana Lyons' 'Cows With Guns.'  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI)

For the protagonist cow, I guess you could say... *takes off sunglasses*

there was a lot at steak.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Listener on July 17, 2012, 03:17:00 PM
Put me in mind of Dana Lyons' 'Cows With Guns.'  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI)

For the protagonist cow, I guess you could say... *takes off sunglasses*

there was a lot at steak.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/34pxoj8.jpg)

It took a surprisingly long time to get that to work out correctly.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Dem on July 17, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Talia, Listener - this is why we keep coming back here. Blinder!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: rotheche on July 18, 2012, 08:51:46 AM
A causality loop is a kind of logical impossibility where a series of events constantly triggers itself. Sort of like a chicken and the egg problem. Which came first? One way to solve it would be with a causality loop. The chicken comes back in time, and lays the egg from which it hatches so that it can lay its own egg.
The space-faring bovine seemed to think that he (she?) was here in order to maintain some sort of causality loop that eventually leads to the existence of a space-faring bovine race. Simply put: Bess is the matriarch of hyperintelligent cows. If she dies in this gun fight, there are no hyperintelligent cows. So they send a spaceship back in time to rescue her so that she can get on with producing a race of hyperintelligent cows so that they will be able to eventually go back in time and save her from dying so that.... and so on.
Which especially made me laugh given Wilfred's earlier dismissal of grandfather paradoxes.  Okay, not quite the same thing, but it made me laugh  ;D
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: childoftyranny on July 18, 2012, 11:17:24 PM
Simply put, this was a mooving experience.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Unblinking on July 19, 2012, 02:04:05 PM
It took a surprisingly long time to get that to work out correctly.

Hilarious!

Even more hilarious is the fact that I looked at this and laughed two days ago without even realizing that he is apparently putting on a SECOND pair of sunglasses over the first.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Kaa on July 23, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
I have decided that if I ever get anything published on Escape Pod, Christiana Ellis simply MUST do the reading. Must. I love these silly little interludes every once in a while.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Dem on July 23, 2012, 09:07:46 PM
It took a surprisingly long time to get that to work out correctly.

Hilarious!

Even more hilarious is the fact that I looked at this and laughed two days ago without even realizing that he is apparently putting on a SECOND pair of sunglasses over the first.
Oh what? Didn't see that! What a hoot!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Gamercow on July 26, 2012, 02:39:14 PM
COW STORY COW STORY COW STORY COW STORY COW STORY!

*ahem*
Of course I loved this story, and Christina Ellis did a great job of narrating it, her bovine accent was pretty spot on.  I didn't think of the details too much, and while the gunfight at the end was a little weird and not really pertinent, I was able to listen around it, like Listener said.  Silly is good, and I think this was a good counterpoint to the very serious 113 Feet.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: CryptoMe on August 07, 2012, 03:38:18 AM
Okay, I did enjoy this story. It was silly and fun.

BUT, I really wanted to hear the story of an intelligent cow in the world of humans. So, I was rather disappointed when the crazy time-traveling reality show producers were added to the mix. Maybe that's just me, though.
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: LaShawn on August 10, 2012, 07:54:23 PM
I think this was the best narration Christiana did EVAR. Is it okay to say that she, makes for a really good cow?

While I liked the time travelling, I found the fact our cow was a conspiracy theorist to be much more hilarious. Oh, and MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Myrealana on August 20, 2012, 01:52:44 PM
It was completely and totally silly.

Which is just fine in my book. Good one!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: simon.birkby on October 03, 2012, 05:22:41 AM
"Planet of the Cows"
Brilliant idea! I would want to read that - if it could spin out that far without losing the fun
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: simon.birkby on October 03, 2012, 05:33:00 AM
This was the funniest story I'd heard in ages and had me laughing out loud in several places. Also some really interesting themes. Great job Laura! Gonna read the rest of your stuff now. Also, excellent narration style for the material, so many thanks to Christiana Ellis as well.

/simon
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: hardware on October 07, 2012, 11:06:34 AM
Yeah, this was fun and clever, and very well read. Good job all around - the commenting thread was almost as entertaining!
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: kachekaboom on October 10, 2012, 11:35:01 PM
Conspiracy theory cows :o lol
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Bdoomed on October 18, 2012, 01:05:34 AM
Loved it loved it loved it loved it loved it loved it... Need I say more?
Title: Re: EP352: Food for Thought
Post by: Fenrix on December 07, 2012, 02:38:51 PM
This is one to keep in mind when nominations for best narration of the year come up.

"Planet of the Cows"
Brilliant idea! I would want to read that - if it could spin out that far without losing the fun

You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn youuuuuuuuu! God damn youuuuuuuuuuuuu all to hell!