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Loved the story, but I'm posting for a different reason - I may not be able to listen to escape pod because of Steve's photo.

Bear with me - have you actually ever seen a d.j? No, the reason is, completely independent of looks, it's off-putting to embody a disembodied voice. I've been listening on and off to escape pod for over a year and, as weird as it sounds, Steve Ely is a character as well as a person. I didn't have a concrete image of what that character looked like, but it's very jarring to put a face to a voice after a year or two. Perhaps one reason is the fact that other times I've seen people I regularly listen to, their image is out there.

Further complicating my reaction are the occasionally deeply personal intros of the podcast. There's a weird intimacy level that makes the fact of not having seen a photo weird. Maybe I'm way off base, but seeing the picture changed my perception of the podcast.

I know Steve (and TBH calling him Steve feels weird) has been to tons of conventions, but seeing an image where I've never seen one before still kind of jarred me.


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Reply #1 on: May 02, 2008, 12:43:36 PM
Loved the story, but I'm posting for a different reason - I may not be able to listen to escape pod because of Steve's photo.

Bear with me - have you actually ever seen a d.j? No, the reason is, completely independent of looks, it's off-putting to embody a disembodied voice. I've been listening on and off to escape pod for over a year and, as weird as it sounds, Steve Ely is a character as well as a person. I didn't have a concrete image of what that character looked like, but it's very jarring to put a face to a voice after a year or two. Perhaps one reason is the fact that other times I've seen people I regularly listen to, their image is out there.

Further complicating my reaction are the occasionally deeply personal intros of the podcast. There's a weird intimacy level that makes the fact of not having seen a photo weird. Maybe I'm way off base, but seeing the picture changed my perception of the podcast.

I know Steve (and TBH calling him Steve feels weird) has been to tons of conventions, but seeing an image where I've never seen one before still kind of jarred me.



I have similar feelings when I see DJs; our local 98 Rock folks have very distinctive voices, and when I saw that they weren't Xena and the King of Queens, but were my mom and Mickey Rooney... it was kind of off-putting.

But in my world, at least, Steve fares better in reality than he did in my mental image... I don't want to say more than that, but let's just say after the experiences of seeing those DJs on TV, I started connecting REALLY awful images to the more charming voices I heard... and Steve is a lot better looking than I had imagined.  ;)

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Reply #2 on: May 02, 2008, 12:48:20 PM
Loved the story, but I'm posting for a different reason - I may not be able to listen to escape pod because of Steve's photo.

Am I the only one who thinks this is just dumb?


Bear with me - have you actually ever seen a d.j?

Yes, seen DJs and other radio personalities as well.  I've never had an issue with knowing the face that goes with the voice.  Not even after having heard the voice for years and then finally seeing the face.

But whatever ... go ahead and quit listening.  Your loss.  Nothing to me.
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Reply #3 on: May 02, 2008, 01:07:45 PM
Loved the story, but I'm posting for a different reason - I may not be able to listen to escape pod because of Steve's photo.

Am I the only one who thinks this is just dumb?


Yeah.  I don't care if Steve looks like Charles Manson circa 1973, I listen mostly for the GREAT stories.  I would say most people I know look different than their voices would lead me to belive.  Who cares?

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Reply #4 on: May 02, 2008, 02:02:09 PM
I sort of understand the point. Steve certainly doesn't match my mental image of him - For some reason, I'd been thinking of him as a skinnier, taller version of Vincent Price - and it's kind of jarring to find our what he actually looks like.

But, yeah, stopping listening to EP because of it would be overkill.

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Reply #5 on: May 02, 2008, 02:07:46 PM
See, I always thought it was kinda fun to try to picture the face behind the voice and then see how close or far off I got. While I can't remember the exact details and the when, I can remember the exact feeling of the first time I saw a face behind the voice, and it was completely different than I had imagined. It was jarring. But I found it kinda strangely cool, not disconcerting.



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Reply #6 on: May 02, 2008, 04:04:28 PM
Loved the story, but I'm posting for a different reason - I may not be able to listen to escape pod because of Steve's photo.

Am I the only one who thinks this is just dumb?

Actually, I was worried it was going to be dumber.  So I was kind of pleasantly surprised by the reasoning.

FWIW, I can kind of understand how you feel, qwints.  I think that's the power of podcasting -- there's a whole different kind of level of intimacy at play with the medium.  I'm constantly surprised when I meet or see pictures of authors.  That usually gets me to react like, "Huh. That's not how I pictured this person." And then I go on and keep reading or listening to their stories.

Also, in case we ever meet -- I look nothing like my profile picture.  Just sayin' ;)

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Reply #7 on: May 02, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
Just to be clear, I couldn't actually stop listening to escape pod. My point was that given the intimacy of the medium, seeing a photo felt like a weird invasion of privacy. I was talking about it with my fiance this morning and she mentioned how she just tried to ignore the billboard of Kid Cradick (a morning dj in Dallas). This is in no way meant to give offense, but was merely meant to try and express the feeling I had last night.

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Reply #8 on: May 02, 2008, 07:57:29 PM
A little late to the party on this one, but I wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the story.    I agree with the comments in the main blog thread: it's somehow reminiscent of, but not quite as good as, Friction.

On the posting the photo thread:  I understand the jarring effect of seeing the face behind a voice/character.  It's similar to one of the reasons the book is usually better than the movie:  you get to fill in the visual details exactly how your subconscious wants them to be.  It's rare that reality can live up to that.  I also completely agree with DKT, the effect is only momentary and then I go on reading/listening.

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Reply #9 on: May 02, 2008, 09:53:31 PM
On the posting the photo thread:  I understand the jarring effect of seeing the face behind a voice/character.  It's similar to one of the reasons the book is usually better than the movie:  you get to fill in the visual details exactly how your subconscious wants them to be.  It's rare that reality can live up to that.  I also completely agree with DKT, the effect is only momentary and then I go on reading/listening.


I had no idea people felt this way.  Now I'm going to have to dress in a full body giant squid costume next con.

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Reply #10 on: May 02, 2008, 09:54:40 PM
On the posting the photo thread:  I understand the jarring effect of seeing the face behind a voice/character.  It's similar to one of the reasons the book is usually better than the movie:  you get to fill in the visual details exactly how your subconscious wants them to be.  It's rare that reality can live up to that.  I also completely agree with DKT, the effect is only momentary and then I go on reading/listening.


I had no idea people felt this way.  Now I'm going to have to dress in a full body giant squid costume next con.

Sweet...

But...that's how I always pictured you. ???


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Reply #11 on: May 03, 2008, 03:06:02 AM
On the posting the photo thread:  I understand the jarring effect of seeing the face behind a voice/character.  It's similar to one of the reasons the book is usually better than the movie:  you get to fill in the visual details exactly how your subconscious wants them to be.  It's rare that reality can live up to that.  I also completely agree with DKT, the effect is only momentary and then I go on reading/listening.


I had no idea people felt this way.  Now I'm going to have to dress in a full body giant squid costume next con.

Sweet...

But...that's how I always pictured you. ???

Really?  I thought he was the bus!  ;)

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Reply #12 on: May 04, 2008, 04:54:19 PM
I sort of understand the point. Steve certainly doesn't match my mental image of him - For some reason, I'd been thinking of him as a skinnier, taller version of Vincent Price - and it's kind of jarring to find our what he actually looks like.

I'd listened to about 50 EP episodes before I saw a photo of Steve.  I'd pictured him as very skinny and with a shaved head.  And possibly facial piercings.

Now that I know what he looks like, I think his face matches his online persona perfectly.  For what it's worth.

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Reply #13 on: May 04, 2008, 09:42:16 PM
I sort of understand the point. Steve certainly doesn't match my mental image of him - For some reason, I'd been thinking of him as a skinnier, taller version of Vincent Price - and it's kind of jarring to find our what he actually looks like.

I'd listened to about 50 EP episodes before I saw a photo of Steve.  I'd pictured him as very skinny and with a shaved head.  And possibly facial piercings.

Now that I know what he looks like, I think his face matches his online persona perfectly.  For what it's worth.

Dunno, but to me Steve always sounded more...curly.  ;)



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Reply #14 on: May 04, 2008, 10:04:55 PM
It's rare that reality can live up to that. 

Extreme cases: The guy who plays Elmo. The guy who was the WWF voice (but you never saw him on TV until he played Harvey Whippleman).


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Reply #15 on: May 05, 2008, 02:25:35 AM
It's rare that reality can live up to that.

Extreme cases: The guy who plays Elmo. The guy who was the WWF voice (but you never saw him on TV until he played Harvey Whippleman).



So THAT'S who we have to blame for Elmo... Aw, and he's from Baltimore!?!?  I need to find this guy, and Tickle him! :P

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Reply #16 on: May 05, 2008, 02:37:28 AM
Shoot, now I can't watch Sesame Street.  ;)

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Reply #17 on: May 05, 2008, 02:52:31 AM
Shoot, now I can't watch Sesame Street.  ;)

Any other shows you want me to ruin for you?   8)

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Reply #18 on: May 05, 2008, 04:31:36 PM
It's rare that reality can live up to that.

Extreme cases: The guy who plays Elmo. The guy who was the WWF voice (but you never saw him on TV until he played Harvey Whippleman).



So THAT'S who we have to blame for Elmo... Aw, and he's from Baltimore!?!?  I need to find this guy, and Tickle him! :P

We have some Sesame Street DVDs that the guy also had a different character of Benny the Rabbit.  He was like a Robert Deniro version of Oscar the Grouch.  I don't know how Elmo became so popular yet Benny got tossed by the wayside.  Shame, really. 


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Reply #19 on: May 07, 2008, 11:18:49 AM
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Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 02:09:55 PM
For whatever reason, my mental image of Steve Eley was pale and sort of chubby, with a snub nose and black hair. When you think about it, maybe we don't get ideas of what people look like just by their voices; maybe we get them from our schemas of what their names sound like. Like Mur Lafferty turned out to look way more normal than I thought she would, with a name like Mur. Which is a sweet name, don't get me wrong, but made me think of someone with long, curly brown hair and vaguely manly facial features. Kind of like a female version of my mental image of Freddie Mercury before it got shattered.

My brain is weird.

That having been said, I'm not disturbed at having seen a picture of Steve, and I don't think it's an 'invasion of privacy.' It's just... I don't know... normal. Should I be disturbed?


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Reply #21 on: May 13, 2008, 04:10:17 PM
Huh... this made me realize that, oddly, I didn't really have a mental image for Steve.  Maybe I did when I first started listening, but I can't come up with anything now that I've seen the picture.  I really don't care what Steve looks like, I'm here because I love the work he does. 
This kinda reminds me of something that used to happen a lot to a friend of mine. A.J.'s  'phone voice' apparently did not match his appearance (I never thought so, but I meet him face to face the first time).  Often when he would talk to someone on the phone and then meet them later, they at first didn't even believe it was the same person.  For some reason they never expected an almost seven foot tall, lanky African-American man with perfectly manicured nails and a purse.  People told him he sounded white on the phone, and I think sometimes implied he also sounded strait.  He would laugh about it, even though I think it bugged him that that people always assumed proper grammar meant 'white guy', and that gay men were always squealing "Fabulous!"
Anyway, my point is a voice is not much to judge someone on.  It's much better to listen to the words they say. 

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Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 03:03:18 AM
This kinda reminds me of something that used to happen a lot to a friend of mine. A.J.'s  'phone voice' apparently did not match his appearance (I never thought so, but I meet him face to face the first time).  Often when he would talk to someone on the phone and then meet them later, they at first didn't even believe it was the same person.  For some reason they never expected an almost seven foot tall, lanky African-American man with perfectly manicured nails and a purse.  People told him he sounded white on the phone, and I think sometimes implied he also sounded strait.  He would laugh about it, even though I think it bugged him that that people always assumed proper grammar meant 'white guy', and that gay men were always squealing "Fabulous!"

I've sometimes heard a voice and decided that the speaker sounded black even though he or she spoke with correct grammar and perfect diction.  Sometimes I've even been right  ;)

As for gay men, one only has to look at Ted on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy (Ted is the food expert) to see that some are completely undetectable on "gaydar" until they out themselves.

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Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 08:11:09 AM
This kinda reminds me of something that used to happen a lot to a friend of mine. A.J.'s  'phone voice' apparently did not match his appearance (I never thought so, but I meet him face to face the first time).  Often when he would talk to someone on the phone and then meet them later, they at first didn't even believe it was the same person.  For some reason they never expected an almost seven foot tall, lanky African-American man with perfectly manicured nails and a purse.  People told him he sounded white on the phone, and I think sometimes implied he also sounded strait.  He would laugh about it, even though I think it bugged him that that people always assumed proper grammar meant 'white guy', and that gay men were always squealing "Fabulous!"

I've sometimes heard a voice and decided that the speaker sounded black even though he or she spoke with correct grammar and perfect diction.  Sometimes I've even been right  ;)

As for gay men, one only has to look at Ted on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy (Ted is the food expert) to see that some are completely undetectable on "gaydar" until they out themselves.

This is what I think about whenever someone says the forums are too white. I think it's a pretty racist statement.  They're assuming that a non-white person will write in a way that screams, "Person of Color here." 

I just file everyone who hasn't stated their race or posted a pic as unknown.  Give them kind of a green color.



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Reply #24 on: May 14, 2008, 01:58:23 PM
If I don't know what a forum poster actually looks like, I picture them as their avatar.

So yes, Russell's got kind of a green color.

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