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on: May 15, 2008, 04:14:39 PM
First off, quite a bit more useful jet pack. Can't take off, but still, plus one in the progress category for humanity.

And minus several thousand — Invasion of the crazy rasberry ants that eat electronics.

And NBC uses the broadcast flag.

But we have more on what Einstein thought about religion: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

And the Vatican is ok with life on Mars.

Weird week. And that's ignoring the two natural disasters and one criminally evil or incompetent government.

Edit: One last thing, if you're going to HOPE, that feeling that someone's watching where you're going will, for once, be justified.
Quote from: Emmanuel Goldstein
Hackers Track Visitors to New York City

New York, NY - May 15, 2008 - This summer, hackers from around the world
will track the movements of thousands of visitors to New York City.

As part of a social experiment, attendees at a hacker conference in July
will be issued badges with electronic tracking devices.  Large displays
will show in real-time where people go, with whom they associate, for how
long and how often.

The tracking technology, known as RFID, is fast becoming an unseen part of
everyday life.  This July, for the very first time, the general public will
be able to participate in the transparent operation of a major RFID
tracking program.

Conference attendees will participate in games built around the tracking
system.  Players will seek ways to protect their privacy, find
vulnerabilities in the tracking system, employ data mining techniques to
learn more about other participants, and choose how much personal
information they will disclose in order to play.

This demonstration will be open to the public at The Last HOPE conference
from July 18-20 at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York City. The first 1500
preregistrants will be guaranteed an RFID badge enabling them to
participate in the game.  More information and preregistration is available
at http://www.hope.net/.

Contact: press@hope.net
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Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 04:54:13 PM
First off, quite a bit more useful jet pack. Can't take off, but still, plus one in the progress category for humanity.

I was impressed with the other video on the page of the blackhole having a high noon appointment with a galaxy.

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Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 06:16:30 PM
Yeah, cool week in news.  A couple I hadn't heard of - thanks for the compilation.   The video of the guy with the rocket wings is very cool.

Not to get off on a rant here, but what percentage of the world's population is Catholic?  I'm sick of hearing about what the Vatican or the Pope thinks.  What did they think of Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin?  Whenever the Pope makes a decree it's always newsworthy apparently.  I suppose Protestants care about what he says so maybe there is a lot of interest and it should be front-page stuff.   

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Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 06:43:25 PM
Yeah, cool week in news.  A couple I hadn't heard of - thanks for the compilation.   The video of the guy with the rocket wings is very cool.

Not to get off on a rant here, but what percentage of the world's population is Catholic?  I'm sick of hearing about what the Vatican or the Pope thinks.  What did they think of Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin?  Whenever the Pope makes a decree it's always newsworthy apparently.  I suppose Protestants care about what he says so maybe there is a lot of interest and it should be front-page stuff.   

It's a bit of a big thing, because the church has always said we are the only ones.  It helps that they are slowly starting to see the light.  Of course it was only during the Clinton years that they finally admitted that the earth circles the sun.



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Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 06:58:20 PM
Yeah, cool week in news.  A couple I hadn't heard of - thanks for the compilation.   The video of the guy with the rocket wings is very cool.

Not to get off on a rant here, but what percentage of the world's population is Catholic?  I'm sick of hearing about what the Vatican or the Pope thinks.  What did they think of Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin?  Whenever the Pope makes a decree it's always newsworthy apparently.  I suppose Protestants care about what he says so maybe there is a lot of interest and it should be front-page stuff.   

Something like a sixth of the world's population is Catholic, but I can't find the numbers immediately.

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Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 07:13:19 PM
Yeah, cool week in news.  A couple I hadn't heard of - thanks for the compilation.   The video of the guy with the rocket wings is very cool.

Not to get off on a rant here, but what percentage of the world's population is Catholic?  I'm sick of hearing about what the Vatican or the Pope thinks.  What did they think of Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin?  Whenever the Pope makes a decree it's always newsworthy apparently.  I suppose Protestants care about what he says so maybe there is a lot of interest and it should be front-page stuff.   

Something like a sixth of the world's population is Catholic, but I can't find the numbers immediately.
Wikipedia has your back on that one.

But I am going to be pedantic, and point out that we're talking about adherents of the Western Roman Catholic Church, rather than of the dozen other denominations that claim to be Catholic. And that's without pointing out that small-c catholic can refer to all Christians, regardless of denomination.

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Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 07:41:19 PM
And showing that the week isn't over until the fat lady sings and flips the church the bird, gays may now exercise their right to marry in California.

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Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 10:41:17 PM
Yeah, cool week in news.  A couple I hadn't heard of - thanks for the compilation.   The video of the guy with the rocket wings is very cool.

Not to get off on a rant here, but what percentage of the world's population is Catholic?  I'm sick of hearing about what the Vatican or the Pope thinks.  What did they think of Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin?  Whenever the Pope makes a decree it's always newsworthy apparently.  I suppose Protestants care about what he says so maybe there is a lot of interest and it should be front-page stuff.   

I'm Catholic.  Which is quite a lot more complex than that initial, bald statement suggests.

   The thing is, I've been part of the church since I was twelve and on a personal standpoint have had nothing but good experiences all the way along.  My faith's helped me a lot in some very bad situations but that does not mean, under any circumstances, that I blindly adhere to every belief of the Catholic Church.

Clerical celibacy?  Bad plan.

That Archbishop lobbying to pull out of Amnesty International because (gasp) they support ABORTION?  Oh HELL no.

   There are others.  In fact, that second one genuinely nearly got me in trouble.  I remember reading the headline in the lobby of the Church on the way out and getting the 'Oh what the HE-' of 'Oh what the HELL is this shit?!' out before being frogmarched out the door by my Dad.  Turns out a 6'1 guy unloading on the Catholic newspapers with both barrels?  Might frighten old ladies.  Who knew?

   The delineation that I make is that there is the Church and the faith itself.  The Church is the admin, it's the humans, the politicians.  They're the ones who make mistakes, who are at times horrifically broken human beings, who clearly have a vast cognitive dissonance between what they think is right and what everyone else on the planet thinks.  The Church is responsible for the Inquisition, for the lousy time Galileo had, for the countless mistakes and crimes down through the centuries.

I am pleased that they're officially cool with life on other worlds now though.

   Then there's the faith.  The faith is what taught me to help people who are in trouble, what taught me to be polite, to be nice, to be compassionate.  The faith tells me that it's okay for me to fuck up, which I do, repeatedly because in the end, the fact that I'm trying and that I'm sorry when things go wrong is in fact the most important part.  It's not a perfect relationship and if I'm being a hundred percent honest I've had two occasions in the last three years where I've felt more than a little adrift, but it's something I keep returning to.

   Much like your point, up post:)

Oh by the way?  I think science is AWESOME.  Huge science fan.  And I can reconcile my faith with science pretty easily, at least in my head.

   Anyway, yes I understand completely why the Papal news coverage can be irritating and unfortunately it's kind of the fault of history.  The Catholic church is unusual in several ways and I'm sure people who are much better scholars than me will be along to explain that any minute, but not the least of them is the fact it's also a Government.  The Pope is effectively a head of state and that's one of the major reasons why he gets a lot of coverage when he does speak.  Throw in the rigidly stratified nature of the church and that means he seems, and probably is, over exposed.




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Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 12:12:49 AM
Yeah yeah...Catholicism...

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Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 07:05:04 AM
YOU want the jetpack?  Get in line!:)



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Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 03:31:43 PM
YOU want the jetpack?  Get in line!:)
I think instead I will run to the front of the line, strap that thing on, and rocket away to...wherever!  Suckers!

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Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
YOU want the jetpack?  Get in line!:)
I think instead I will run to the front of the line, strap that thing on, and rocket away to...wherever!  Suckers!

* Heradel dangles heat regulator in hand as a rapidly expanding ball of flame and vapor appears on the horizon.

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Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 03:49:14 PM
YOU want the jetpack?  Get in line!:)
I think instead I will run to the front of the line, strap that thing on, and rocket away to...wherever!  Suckers!

* Heradel dangles heat regulator in hand as a rapidly expanding ball of flame and vapor appears on the horizon.

* Stares at fireball for a moment.  Turns to Heradel. *

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Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 04:09:38 PM
Alasdair, I heart you, man.  You are made of 100% awesome. 


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Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 04:42:02 PM
YOU want the jetpack?  Get in line!:)
I think instead I will run to the front of the line, strap that thing on, and rocket away to...wherever!  Suckers!

* Heradel dangles heat regulator in hand as a rapidly expanding ball of flame and vapor appears on the horizon.
Meh.  If I could do it all over again I would!

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Reply #15 on: May 16, 2008, 10:25:08 PM
YOU want the jetpack?  Get in line!:)
I think instead I will run to the front of the line, strap that thing on, and rocket away to...wherever!  Suckers!

* Heradel dangles heat regulator in hand as a rapidly expanding ball of flame and vapor appears on the horizon.


* Stares at fireball for a moment.  Turns to Heradel. *

After you, I insist.

:)

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