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Reply #25 on: May 22, 2008, 02:46:42 PM
Check jchutchins.net.  He received on of the letters.  Also check the site  http://chishio.jp/ for pictures of three other letters.




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Reply #26 on: May 22, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
My girlfriend's hypotheses were Armenian or Amharic (she's part Armenian and has seen a lot of Amharic script from living in an area with a lot of Ethiopian immigrants).

But neither quite fit the bill:

http://deshika.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/amharic.jpg    = Amharic
http://www.schoyencollection.com/OtherBible_files/ms233_1b.jpg   = Armenian

It is definitely not Chinese; we can both read Chinese.  It's not devanagiri/Sanskrit, and it's not Thai, Lao, Tamil (which she can read), Malayalam, Kannadiga or any such S/SE Asian script.

The two letters on the far left and right on chishio.jp are almost definitely in cuneiform (Sumerian).

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Reply #27 on: May 22, 2008, 04:09:15 PM
Manchu?  Similar to Mongolian but not quite.

http://www.lionking.org/~timwi/n_true/Oiratisch.jpg  - Manchu

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Reply #28 on: May 22, 2008, 04:31:45 PM
iiiinteresting... i say post something about it here
they'll probably know something about it, or it could be brand new.
I've never heard of an ARG (Alternate Reality Game) until now, sounds interesting but too much effort and I can't care enough to try it out. :) im too lazy.

I'd like to hear my options, so I could weigh them, what do you say?
Five pounds?  Six pounds? Seven pounds?


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Reply #29 on: May 22, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
I think it's "Tibeto-Burman" (which would explain the "TB").

That TB logo looks familiar, but I can't place it, or find anything similar online. I'm almost certain that the icons above and below the letters are books, making me think it's a publishing house, or something along those lines.

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Reply #30 on: May 22, 2008, 04:41:00 PM
This one and this one are definitely cuneiform.

And the other one on Chisho.jp is Phoenician.

Anyone here read ancient Sumerian?
« Last Edit: May 22, 2008, 04:43:56 PM by wintermute »

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Reply #31 on: May 22, 2008, 04:43:35 PM
Assuming that this is an ARG or viral marketing, the whois for chishio.jp is as follows.

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[Domain Name]                   CHISHIO.JP

[Registrant]                    chishio chishio

[Name Server]                   ns1.rackspace.com
[Name Server]                   ns2.rackspace.com

[Created on]                    2008/03/27
[Expires on]                    2009/03/31
[Status]                        Active
[Last Updated]                  2008/05/22 07:22:30 (JST)

Contact Information:
[Name]                          chishio chishio
[Email]                         chishio01@gmail.com
[Web Page]                      
[Postal code]                   166-0002
[Postal Address]                3-43-13 Koenji-kita
                                Suginami-ku
                                Tokyo
[Phone]                         +6469370339
[Fax]                          

Edit: So it was updated today, and the address points to this building in Tokyo, which looks like offices or apartments.
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Reply #32 on: May 22, 2008, 05:25:58 PM
iiiinteresting... i say post something about it here
they'll probably know something about it, or it could be brand new.
I've never heard of an ARG (Alternate Reality Game) until now, sounds interesting but too much effort and I can't care enough to try it out. :) im too lazy.
Lost and Cloverfield both had ARGs. Lost has had three, in fact. Not of the story in the ARG is canon, though, so it's mostly just for fun. Anyway, there's a Doritos one that site pointed to that looks pretty interesting... It's a treasure hunt for $100,000. I could use $100,000. If it turns out to be fun, I'll start a new thread... sorry for the off-topicness!



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Reply #33 on: May 23, 2008, 01:24:12 AM
The characters in the red seal are actually regular old latin characters just bunched up together.

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Reply #34 on: May 23, 2008, 03:47:11 AM
Guys, let's try to centralize this investigation... it seems pretty scattered among blog comment boards and such. I started a thread on an ARG / viral site:

http://www.immersionunlimited.com/index.php?topic=2900.0



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Reply #35 on: May 23, 2008, 02:54:32 PM
How 'bout this?

http://chishio.jp/

My guess is that it's the viral marketing scheme for Cloverfield 2.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2008, 02:56:22 PM by Thaurismunths »

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Reply #36 on: May 23, 2008, 03:08:11 PM
In Hutchins' video on his 'rabbit hole' I noticed the stamp didn't have a postage mark (is that the right word? I was looking the words up and the dictionary tells me there's 1 word for both the stamp you lick and the stamp you put on it with ink... So, the stamp has no stamp?!?

AnywayzZz, the missing of the ink stamp had my attention. Wondering whether JC Hutchins didn't really get it by mail (and forgot to create a fake stamp) or it was personally delivered by The Rabbit Hole People or the postal office was bribed in not stamping it, so its origin would be unknown. Of course, the third option is the most apparent but I'm keeping all options open at the moment.

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Reply #37 on: May 23, 2008, 03:11:23 PM
In Hutchins' video on his 'rabbit hole' I noticed the stamp didn't have a postage mark (is that the right word? I was looking the words up and the dictionary tells me there's 1 word for both the stamp you lick and the stamp you put on it with ink... So, the stamp has no stamp?!?

AnywayzZz, the missing of the ink stamp had my attention. Wondering whether JC Hutchins didn't really get it by mail (and forgot to create a fake stamp) or it was personally delivered by The Rabbit Hole People or the postal office was bribed in not stamping it, so its origin would be unknown. Of course, the third option is the most apparent but I'm keeping all options open at the moment.

Mine had no stamp marking either. I don't think they get processed the same when you get the stamps from stamps.com. At any rate, I took the mail bundle from the mail carrier so I know mine came to me via the postal system.

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Reply #38 on: May 23, 2008, 03:17:26 PM
Mine had no stamp marking either.

Darn, there goes my conspiracy theory. Unless..... you're in on it too :o
It's all so confusing

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Reply #39 on: May 23, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
In Hutchins' video on his 'rabbit hole' I noticed the stamp didn't have a postage mark (is that the right word? I was looking the words up and the dictionary tells me there's 1 word for both the stamp you lick and the stamp you put on it with ink... So, the stamp has no stamp?!?

AnywayzZz, the missing of the ink stamp had my attention. Wondering whether JC Hutchins didn't really get it by mail (and forgot to create a fake stamp) or it was personally delivered by The Rabbit Hole People or the postal office was bribed in not stamping it, so its origin would be unknown. Of course, the third option is the most apparent but I'm keeping all options open at the moment.

Mine had no stamp marking either. I don't think they get processed the same when you get the stamps from stamps.com. At any rate, I took the mail bundle from the mail carrier so I know mine came to me via the postal system.

I was going to suggest that it's not impossible for an envelope to slip through the system and not get postmarked. It's rare, but it happens. But two such, from the same batch would be too much of a coincidence.

Bulk-rate mail (I think) doesn't get postmarked, so it might have travelled that route.

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Reply #40 on: May 23, 2008, 03:38:48 PM
Mine had no stamp marking either.

Darn, there goes my conspiracy theory. Unless..... you're in on it too :o
It's all so confusing
But that's the beauty of of conspiracy theory! Anyone putting forward testimony that contradicts you is clearly part of the conspiracy. Or a mindless dupe who's just parroting what THE MAN says, but I don't think that applies in this case.

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Reply #41 on: May 23, 2008, 03:47:36 PM
Maybe it's from the Union.  The REAL union!

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Reply #42 on: May 23, 2008, 04:35:40 PM
Maybe it's from the Union.  The REAL union!

I don't know about the mailings, but I'm pretty sure These are...



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Reply #43 on: May 23, 2008, 04:54:16 PM
Maybe it's from the Union.  The REAL union!
I don't know about the mailings, but I'm pretty sure These are...
Ha!  So this whole thing is just a ruse so you can peddle your t-shirts.  I see how it is.


I still want one.  Damn you!  Your viral marketing worked on me!

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Reply #44 on: May 23, 2008, 05:34:05 PM
Wow. That does not work in dark colours. I was hoping for a keyline, or something. But that big, ugly white rectangle around it? That pretty much kills my desire for one.

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Reply #45 on: May 26, 2008, 05:01:47 AM
After perusing http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/05/23/new-viral-what-the-hell-are-the-red-seal-mailings/ , my favourite so far is the
True Blood connection.

It looks promising, because I've liked Alan Ball's stuff so far.

So, that may explain the origins, but what the text means still remains a mystery. ???
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Reply #46 on: May 26, 2008, 10:17:13 AM
Now that we figured out it's some kind of mass-mailing to start a viral marketing campaign, I have absolutely no interest in it.  I find these viral campaigns to be just another way to cover up for a movie having no story.  Just a hook to get people into the theaters before word gets around that it's stupid.



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Reply #47 on: May 26, 2008, 01:23:40 PM
Now that we figured out it's some kind of mass-mailing to start a viral marketing campaign, I have absolutely no interest in it.  I find these viral campaigns to be just another way to cover up for a movie having no story.  Just a hook to get people into the theaters before word gets around that it's stupid.

Agreed. I won't be watching.

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Reply #48 on: May 26, 2008, 04:18:56 PM
I think it's a pretty cool campaign, myself. It's piqued my interest. I doubt I'll be running in opening night, but for the creativity of the campaign alone, I'll give it half a chance.



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