when the end comes !

[eytanz]

Tits and decapitation.  What more could you want??

An invite to the party?

OK, it's at my place on saturday.  Leave Thaur at home. 

See, maybe I'm just being boring, but if I would get an invitation for a party that has decapitation as an activity, I think I might stay at home.

[Russell Nash]

Tits and decapitation.  What more could you want??

An invite to the party?

OK, it's at my place on saturday.  Leave Thaur at home. 

See, maybe I'm just being boring, but if I would get an invitation for a party that has decapitation as an activity, I think I might stay at home.

And with that bit of wisdom we have our first 300 post thread.

::Throws confetti into the air::

bdoomed, clean that up, will you?

[Thaurismunths]

I had some digging to do at work today. The digging was pretty easy, with only a few stones larger than my head and not too much clay. While prying on one of the stones my boss said something about "Don't break the shovel, it's the best one we have." Which got me thinking: What shovel would be best on zombies?
I figured a wood handled, spade would be the best bet. You could sharpen the blade a bit and use it for slashing, smashing, or stabbing... then I found this beauty. It's practically designed for killing zombies. It's a shame about the fiberglass handle though, they get slick when wet.

So, how about best plug-in power tool?
Best piece of industrial equipment?
Household appliance?

[gelee]

Wow.  Pimp shovel.
Best plug in tool?  Electric pruning saw.  Think a small chain saw on an 8 foot haft.  Good reach, great cutting power.
Industrial equipment?  I'd have to think about that.  Most are imobile, so no good against zombies, either the fast, or slow sort.  I used to work on a 40 ton steel shear that would make easy work of any zombies, but how do I get the buggers to get in there?  Not like I can just move it up against a door.  Even then, the one thing I've learned about zombie movies is that zombies always find a way to get in to any structure.

[Darwinist]

So, how about best plug-in power tool?
Best piece of industrial equipment?
Household appliance?

Power tool (not plug in): a chainsaw on a stick.  It would have to be fairly light but the blade would have to be long enough to sever a head. 

Household appliance:  an hand held mixer with long barbs on the end.

[Chodon]

Not to re-rail this thread or anything, but does anyone out there have a real plan for if the SHTF?  I was thinking about this the other night.  How many people are really prepared for a week long regional power outage?  How many people are prepared for a major natural disaster (like hurricane Katrina)?  What about something as simple as skidding into a ditch out of view of passing cars? 

There are the issues of heat (if it's winter), food and water, communications, transportation, finding out if family is okay, etc.  I wouldn't call myself a survivalist because I'm delightfully plump and don't do well outdoors, but I am concerned about this stuff.  If recent history is any example bad ju-ju can happen even in "first world" countries, and most people are so confident EMS or the police will show up when they dial 911 that they are incapable of taking care of themselves in an emergency.  So am I the only one concerned about planning for a worst case scenario?  Does anyone else have any plans?

To get back to the subject of the thread, my "zombie/car accident survival" items.  I classify three categories: car, bail out bag, on my person. 
Car:
-Jumper cables
-Tool kit (crescent wrench, vice grips, socket set, multi-tool)
-Road maps
-sunglasses
-duct tape
-fix-a-flat
-Cell phone charger

Bail out bag (carried in car):
-First aid kit with nitrile gloves, 4X4 gauze pads, Quikclot, gauze dressings, SAM splint, and a "boo-boo kit" with band aids, ibuprophen, and the like.  I keep this around because it's most likely I'm going to run across a car accident at some point in my life and I want to be able to provde basic first aid before EMTs arrive.  Yes, I am first aid/AED certified with the American Red Cross.
-Glow sticks
-26.5mm signal flare pistol with flares
-2 1 liter nalgene bottles filled
-2 clif bars
-1 Swiss army volcano stove, cup, and bottle
-Trioxane tablets
-Water filter
-Fleece jacket
-Warm socks
-warm, broken-in boots
-Warm jacket
-handheld GPS and topographical maps
-mess kit
-FRS Radio

Things I carry on my person wherever I go:
-3" ka-bar folding knife
-Cell phone
-LED flashlight

I think the above gives me a pretty good chance against most natural, human, or undead threats.

[Tango Alpha Delta]

-Cell phone

...I think the above gives me a pretty good chance against most natural, human, or undead threats.

You appear to be ready for ALMOST everything... except The Pulse!  Did you miss this thread? 

[Chodon]

-Cell phone

...I think the above gives me a pretty good chance against most natural, human, or undead threats.

You appear to be ready for ALMOST everything... except The Pulse!  Did you miss this thread? 

Hmm...not real clear on the plot there, but it looks like cell phones turn people into zombies in this book?  The way I see it survival is about stacking the odds in your favor.  Is there a possibility I will be zombified by my cell phone?  Yes.  However, it's much more likely I will need to use my cell phone to call 911 after a car accident, or to ask my wife if I should pick up some milk on the way home.

Interesting side note: a co-worker of mine keeps his cell phone in a copper box when not in use to prevent "them" from tracking where he is.  At first I thought it was a joke until on a business trip he smacked a phone out of a co-worker's hand because he was using it in the car and "they" would be able to figure out where they were going.  What a looney.

I plan on keeping my cell phone on me at all times despite the risk.  I would like to have a backup of some sort though in case the cell towers go down for some reason (besides the FRS I keep with me...its range sucks).  I'm thinking juiced up CB radio, but I need to do a lot of research before I settle on that.

[Heradel]

Interesting side note: a co-worker of mine keeps his cell phone in a copper box when not in use to prevent "them" from tracking where he is.  At first I thought it was a joke until on a business trip he smacked a phone out of a co-worker's hand because he was using it in the car and "they" would be able to figure out where they were going.  What a looney.

Yeah. Only an idiot would use copper, that just amplifies the signals. Now, lead, or better yet, uranium, is a much better option. So I use a uranium box in a lead box (what, thought I was going to irradiate myself?). Though I do have to say, my phone's been kinda weird to look at in the dark recently... kinda like it's glowing.

Maybe they've taken it over—

[Tango Alpha Delta]

Copper, schmopper... my mother-in-law is always going on about something new that "They" can do to you through your phone (I wish she'd stop watching 60 Minutes), and I finally asked her one day, "Haven't you figured out yet that the only reason 'They' want to track you is so they can stay out of your Zone of Bitchery?"


(That was not the most political thing to say, but it did make for a pleasantly quiet meal. 

[Chodon]

"Zone of Bitchery"

That is fantastic!

[gelee]

OK, so I read Mcarthy's "The Road" a while back.  Aside from inspiring me to assemble a good disaster preparedness kit, it also gave me reason to consider what I would do if I found myself in such a situation.
Basicly, the world (what's left of it) is comprised of people who hide and scavenge, and people who eat people who hide and scavenge.  Which would you be?  Note: no plants will grow due to the on-going nuclear winter.  There are only a few hours of daylight each day, and at high noon, it looks like the cloudiest, darkest day you ever saw.  And that's in summer.  Farming is not an option.

[Chodon]

OK, so I read Mcarthy's "The Road" a while back.  Aside from inspiring me to assemble a good disaster preparedness kit, it also gave me reason to consider what I would do if I found myself in such a situation.
Basicly, the world (what's left of it) is comprised of people who hide and scavenge, and people who eat people who hide and scavenge.  Which would you be?  Note: no plants will grow due to the on-going nuclear winter.  There are only a few hours of daylight each day, and at high noon, it looks like the cloudiest, darkest day you ever saw.  And that's in summer.  Farming is not an option.

1. Way to go on the preparedness kit.  You are now ahead of 90% of the population I pulled that number out of my ass.  I would wager most people assume electricity, water, and heat will be there no matter what.  If anything interrupts them the government will come to rescue you, right?
2. I would eat the people who hide and scavenge.
3. Why not grow mushrooms?

[gelee]

The mushroom thing occured to me too.  It didn't come up in the novel.  The weather might have been a problem: Always cold.

[Russell Nash]

There's a serious bit of irony to the fact that the zombie thread just will not die.

[eytanz]

OK, so I read Mcarthy's "The Road" a while back.  Aside from inspiring me to assemble a good disaster preparedness kit, it also gave me reason to consider what I would do if I found myself in such a situation.
Basicly, the world (what's left of it) is comprised of people who hide and scavenge, and people who eat people who hide and scavenge.  Which would you be?  Note: no plants will grow due to the on-going nuclear winter.  There are only a few hours of daylight each day, and at high noon, it looks like the cloudiest, darkest day you ever saw.  And that's in summer.  Farming is not an option.

1. Way to go on the preparedness kit.  You are now ahead of 90% of the population I pulled that number out of my ass.  I would wager most people assume electricity, water, and heat will be there no matter what.  If anything interrupts them the government will come to rescue you, right?
2. I would eat the people who hide and scavenge.
3. Why not grow mushrooms?

If there's a global nuclear winter and no plants can grow, wouldn't oxygen supply start being a problem before too long?

In any case, I'm pretty confident of the chances of success of my own personal plan in case  of a global apocalypse, which, as I said in this thread a long time ago, is to not survive. I think I can achieve that with very minimal preperation.

[Heradel]

There's a serious bit of irony to the fact that the zombie thread just will not die.

One of these days it'll probably decay into a vampire/enchanted skeleton/golem/pikachu invasion thread.

[Darwinist]

OK, so I read Mcarthy's "The Road" a while back.  Aside from inspiring me to assemble a good disaster preparedness kit, it also gave me reason to consider what I would do if I found myself in such a situation.
Basicly, the world (what's left of it) is comprised of people who hide and scavenge, and people who eat people who hide and scavenge.  Which would you be?  Note: no plants will grow due to the on-going nuclear winter.  There are only a few hours of daylight each day, and at high noon, it looks like the cloudiest, darkest day you ever saw.  And that's in summer.  Farming is not an option.

How about ocean fish and plants, are they all dead as well? 

[oddpod]

There's a serious bit of irony to the fact that the zombie thread just will not die.

my butifull baby
how you have grown!

soon the post count will reach critical mass and then....................

[oddpod]

OK, so I read Mcarthy's "The Road" a while back.  Aside from inspiring me to assemble a good disaster preparedness kit, it also gave me reason to consider what I would do if I found myself in such a situation.
Basicly, the world (what's left of it) is comprised of people who hide and scavenge, and people who eat people who hide and scavenge.  Which would you be?  Note: no plants will grow due to the on-going nuclear winter.  There are only a few hours of daylight each day, and at high noon, it looks like the cloudiest, darkest day you ever saw.  And that's in summer.  Farming is not an option.

How about ocean fish and plants, are they all dead as well? 

 the ocean ecolagy reliys on sunlite as much as the land, i do however think that somthing wuld servive, and that some one some whare wuld learn how to exsplote it.
mass exstinctons are nothing new to planet earth, thay are a regular acurence every squilion years or so and thay are always folowed buy an evolutonery exsploshon.

[gelee]

OK, so I read Mcarthy's "The Road" a while back.  Aside from inspiring me to assemble a good disaster preparedness kit, it also gave me reason to consider what I would do if I found myself in such a situation.
Basicly, the world (what's left of it) is comprised of people who hide and scavenge, and people who eat people who hide and scavenge.  Which would you be?  Note: no plants will grow due to the on-going nuclear winter.  There are only a few hours of daylight each day, and at high noon, it looks like the cloudiest, darkest day you ever saw.  And that's in summer.  Farming is not an option.

How about ocean fish and plants, are they all dead as well? 

Yup, all dead.  Oceans, rivers, lakes, and ponds are all lifeless.  Atmospheric oxygen isn't much of a problem.  The things that use it die off pretty quickly in the absence of food and light.  Dissolved oxygen in water is much more sensitive to things like climate change and nuclear holocaust, so the fish actually die off pretty quickly.  From the timeline in the novel, you figure it's been about 6-8 years since the lights went out.  The survivors have managed to use up all the remaining fossil fuels, ammo, medications, etc.  Virtually everything combustible has already been burned for light and warmth.  Civilization is utterly defunct.
I decided I would basicly turn into Gollum, along with my wife.  I'd hide and scavenge, but if I came across a single survivor, or maybe a small, weak group...well, you know...
Mind you, this is a pretty bleak prediction, and not necessarily my own opinion.  Spider Robinson, for one, lambasted the book for it's utter lack of hope for humanity.

[gelee]

There's a serious bit of irony to the fact that the zombie thread just will not die.

Ya know, I saw it sort of lingering at the bottom of the page.  I'd been thinking about posting this question to the forum for a while.
Lazarus, come forth:  Zombie thread is re-re-reanimated.

[Tango Alpha Delta]

There's a serious bit of irony to the fact that the zombie thread just will not die.

Ya know, I saw it sort of lingering at the bottom of the page.  I'd been thinking about posting this question to the forum for a while.
Lazarus, come forth:  Zombie thread is re-re-reanimated.

So Jesus was into santeria?

[Chodon]

I have to say that the best zombie survival technique I read was one presented in The Zombie Survival Guide.

1. Bring food, water, guns, family upstairs (not in that order).
2. Grab axe
3. Destroy stairs

Everyone knows zombies can't climb, so you'll be safe until you starve to death.  Perfect!

[oddpod]

its a good short term plan but you nead a way to suport youre sellf in the long run and stares are farly tuff to demolish so to work you nead a bit of prep time.
can you take out the stares be for the undead take out the windows and doors ?

i live in a terice house , so ethan when the stares are gone its not to hard to get in to the other houses on the streat thrue the loft spaces, giving me an escape route and scavenging posabilatys