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stePH · **Reply #100 on:** May 04, 2009, 03:42:27 PM

Quote from: cuddlebug on May 04, 2009, 02:18:55 PM

The eps are throwing up really interesting questions, the whole idea of transplanting someone's mind into another body rather than manufacturing a fictional identity, hey I'll take Heidi Klum's body any day. Just gotta get her to volunteer and well, save a bit of money. *giggle*

I don't think it's the actual consciousness being transferred; just a copy of the personality and memories. Kind of like in Hutchins' 7th Son series. If we transferred your "mind" into Heidi Klum and then killed your body, people who know you would recognize you in Klum but you would be dead. That's how I see it anyway. I don't believe in a spiritual "soul" but I do believe consciousness is some kind of non-transferable function of the brain.

Russell Nash · **Reply #101 on:** May 04, 2009, 05:20:33 PM

Quote from: stePH on May 04, 2009, 03:38:12 PM

Quote from: Russell Nash on May 04, 2009, 02:08:46 PM
YAY!!! Wash was on!

What's a Wash?

Here's one next to a River.

Talia · **Reply #102 on:** May 04, 2009, 06:13:48 PM

Quote from: Russell Nash on May 04, 2009, 02:08:46 PM

YAY!!! Wash was on!

Hehe. I read a spoiler about this a couple months back on io9. Had been squirming with eagerness to see it play out. Was not dissapointed.

deflective · **Reply #103 on:** May 11, 2009, 09:23:46 PM

the season's over and it got better toward the end but things don't look good renewal wise. it kinda hurts when your best chance is that your competition could be doing even worse than you are.

i like the Minear style to the two-part finale. he has a way of introducing standard tv errors like we are expected to believe them (this guy designed the environmental systems so he can hack the security systems!) then switching it around (nah, of course he wouldn't be able to do that. that would be silly). i had been wondering why the dollhouse bothered to hire from outside sources when it's easier to hire some poor schlub for five years and make the employee you need.

Talia · **Reply #104 on:** May 11, 2009, 09:41:41 PM

He once again got screwed by fox by being shunted to a Friday time slot. Next time round, maybe he could take the hint, and you know, not go with Fox, the Killer of Great TV Shows.

stePH · **Reply #105 on:** May 11, 2009, 11:14:34 PM

Quote from: Talia on May 11, 2009, 09:41:41 PM

... Fox, the Killer of Great TV Shows.

Such as?

(BTW, no credit for Firefly)

Talia · **Reply #106 on:** May 11, 2009, 11:31:32 PM

what on earth do you mean, no credit for firefly? :p

deflective · **Reply #107 on:** May 11, 2009, 11:51:24 PM

the list^* (horrible video, probably best just to listen to it)

^* opinions may vary, personal classification of "Great" not guaranteed

stePH · **Reply #108 on:** May 12, 2009, 01:57:13 AM

Quote from: deflective on May 11, 2009, 11:51:24 PM

the list^* (horrible video, probably best just to listen to it)

^* opinions may vary, personal classification of "Great" not guaranteed

I've never heard of most of those. The Lone Gunmen was the X-Files spinoff, right?

Quote from: Talia on May 11, 2009, 11:31:32 PM

what on earth do you mean, no credit for firefly? :p

For one thing, at risk of repeating myself, I just never found it very impressive.
For another, I'm just sick of, and bored with, the Whedon fanbois whinging about how it got a bum deal from FOX.

DKT · **Reply #109 on:** May 12, 2009, 05:02:11 AM

Dude, the Lone Gunmen. I forgot about that one. It was so good. I think Harsh Realm could've been good, too, if Fox had given it a little more time to play out (it got canceled after like 5 episodes, IIRC).

Quote from: stePH on May 12, 2009, 01:57:13 AM

Quote from: Talia on May 11, 2009, 11:31:32 PM
what on earth do you mean, no credit for firefly? :p

For one thing, at risk of repeating myself, I just never found it very impressive.
For another, I'm just sick of, and bored with, the Whedon fanbois whinging about how it got a bum deal from FOX.

Personally I enjoyed Firefly, but I can sympathize with your opinion on what I've seen of Dollhouse and Whedonite patience/enthusiasm. (Yes I have heard it does get much after the first five episodes or so, and then skip two or three after #6, and then watch the last couple or something). Okay, honestly, I heard one of the plot twists and I did think it was pretty cool. Not sure it warrants taking 12 hours (most of them having no direct effect on the twist), but still. Helo at least got a good deal.

deflective · **Reply #110 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:08:30 AM

the tick was great and wonderfalls was a quirky little show from the guy who did pushing daisies. if you're missing daisies then wonderfalls might be your methadone.

Talia · **Reply #111 on:** May 12, 2009, 01:08:38 PM

Quote from: stePH on May 12, 2009, 01:57:13 AM

Quote from: deflective on May 11, 2009, 11:51:24 PM
the list^* (horrible video, probably best just to listen to it)

^* opinions may vary, personal classification of "Great" not guaranteed

I've never heard of most of those. The Lone Gunmen was the X-Files spinoff, right?

Quote from: Talia on May 11, 2009, 11:31:32 PM
what on earth do you mean, no credit for firefly? :p

For one thing, at risk of repeating myself, I just never found it very impressive.
For another, I'm just sick of, and bored with, the Whedon fanbois whinging about how it got a bum deal from FOX.

Apparently we have extremely different ideas of what good TV is then. 'Firefly' to my mind is still the best show that ever aired.

To each their own.

As an aside, in defense of the "fanbois", when a show both captures the imagination and remains as firmly tongue in cheek as that show did, its hard not to keep being bitter about an untimely demise.

stePH · **Reply #112 on:** May 12, 2009, 05:15:13 PM

Quote from: Talia on May 12, 2009, 01:08:38 PM

Apparently we have extremely different ideas of what good TV is then. 'Firefly' to my mind is still the best show that ever aired.

Babylon 5 holds that title in my personal opinion, if you want a baseline to work from.

I just didn't like any of the characters in Firefly; I couldn't find any of them sympathetic, and particularly disliked Baldwin's character.

Talia · **Reply #113 on:** May 12, 2009, 06:07:40 PM

what?? Jayne was the BEST THING about the show! He got all the best lines.

I liked Babylon 5 pretty well though I never watched it regularly. Its a pity the cast members keep dying off young (at least two of them, anyway).

Russell Nash · **Reply #114 on:** May 13, 2009, 11:55:01 AM

Jayne is an acquired taste. The first time through I only sort of liked him. Second time through he really started to grow on me. Third time through I almost cheered after each line.

DKT · **Reply #115 on:** May 13, 2009, 03:56:49 PM

He definitely grew on me during the series and movie. Initially, I wanted him to get shoved out the hatch by Mal while they were between planets. By the movie, I absolutely loved him.

Talia · **Reply #116 on:** May 15, 2009, 08:42:28 PM

So it looks like Dollhouse is going to make it:

http://www.endofshow.com/2009/05/15/fox-preps-dollhouse-for-fall-relaunch/

Hope so, it definitely grew on me.

deflective · **Reply #117 on:** May 15, 2009, 09:22:44 PM

something about my mentality wont let me be happy about this, just bitter that dollhouse gets a second season and firefly didn't.

i also sometimes admonish flowers for being too colourful.

lowky · **Reply #118 on:** May 16, 2009, 01:06:56 AM

Happy Dance

Though a part of me also agrees with one of the posters on the End of Show Blog.

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FlickPodcast says:
May 15, 2009 at 10:48 pm

This is an extraordinarily lucky break for the Dollhouse gang. In my opinion, renewal of this show keeps Whedon from working on something that is much more solid and viewable.

Part of me hoped for cancellation, with the anticipation of something stronger from Joss, but now it looks like we’re stuck.

Talia · **Reply #119 on:** May 16, 2009, 03:34:27 AM

Dollhouse is awesome. I feel bad for those who don't like it, poor souls. I dig it and can't wait for more :p

lowky · **Reply #120 on:** May 16, 2009, 08:12:36 AM

Quote from: Talia on May 16, 2009, 03:34:27 AM

Dollhouse is awesome. I feel bad for those who don't like it, poor souls. I dig it and can't wait for more :p

Never said I didn't like it, it's just not a buffy/angel or Firefly. The acting and story just isn't as good. probably in part because it's harder to identify with the Characters when the Characters' character keeps changing each week.

sirana · **Reply #121 on:** May 16, 2009, 08:58:01 AM

And it's (more or less) official.
I really didn't think this would happen.
Yay FOX!?!? It really feels weird yelling that...

DKT · **Reply #122 on:** May 18, 2009, 03:42:44 PM

On This American Life (a few weeks ago, although I just heard it today), Joss Whedon was the musical guest, singing a song from the commentary of the Dr. Horrible DVD (I think).

deflective · **Reply #123 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:06:35 PM

aye, the live show. singing your voice-over commentary for a musical, nice. =)

stePH · **Reply #124 on:** May 19, 2009, 09:56:32 PM

Quote from: sirana on May 16, 2009, 08:58:01 AM

And it's (more or less) official.
I really didn't think this would happen.
Yay FOX!?!? It really feels weird yelling that...

But The Sarah Connor Chronicles gets the axe.

I liked Dollhouse, but I'd rather it were the other way around. I really want to see where the third season would have gone after that finale.