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Reply #2075 on: January 07, 2012, 04:33:56 AM
Aha. What did you think of [The Great Divorce]?
Interesting, though as an allegory it was about as subtle as a brick to the crotch.
I'm expecting more of the same from the sci-fi trilogy.

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Reply #2076 on: January 07, 2012, 07:56:39 AM
Aha. What did you think of [The Great Divorce]?
Interesting, though as an allegory it was about as subtle as a brick to the crotch.
I'm expecting more of the same from the sci-fi trilogy.

Hmm. Fair enough, that particular one is fairly direct. I'll be very interested to hear what you think of Lewis' "sci-fi trilogy". I loved 'em but have to confess I grew up in a fairly fundamental Christian church. To me, the second in the series is the most obviously Christian, the third is the most obviously WTF??


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Reply #2077 on: January 07, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Read John Connolly's "The Infernals," sequel to his YA-ish "The Gates."  I kind of like these books, except where I can't quite figure how much they're serious or not.  They play it awfully straight every now and then.  (The paean's to the protagonist's "pure soul," for example.)

Started reading "Deadly Invention," which so far basically posits that "race" as we understand it in the modern world is a fundamentally meaningless term that was constructed whole cloth out of a variety of political and social forces, and yet still continues to serve as a basis for a lot of ongoing scientific research despite the fact that, for example, three random people from sub-Saharan Africa are genetically more different from each other than from someone in Denmark.  I think she takes a little long to rev up her actual point (such that I almost put the book down, since it was almost a chapter and a half before she admitted that, yes, there are genetic variances among the human population and it's just the issue that they don't map to anything remotely resembling what we think of as the major "races," i.e. Caucasian, Asian, Amerind, African, etc., and the first part of the book is just her repeatedly stating that race is meaningless without getting into her REASONS for making that statement.  Now that she's talking science and explaining her thought processes, I'm with the program again.)



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Reply #2078 on: January 07, 2012, 06:37:51 PM
Aha. What did you think of [The Great Divorce]?
Interesting, though as an allegory it was about as subtle as a brick to the crotch.
I'm expecting more of the same from the sci-fi trilogy.

Hmm. Fair enough, that particular one is fairly direct. I'll be very interested to hear what you think of Lewis' "sci-fi trilogy". I loved 'em but have to confess I grew up in a fairly fundamental Christian church. To me, the second in the series is the most obviously Christian, the third is the most obviously WTF??

I haven't read the scifi trilogy since high school, but that's pretty much the reaction I remember having. Loved the first one and pretty well disliked the third one.

@stePH: You were expecting C.S. Lewis to be subtle? That's like asking Richard Dawkins to be subtle.  :P



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Reply #2079 on: January 08, 2012, 11:54:46 PM
@stePH: You were expecting C.S. Lewis to be subtle? That's like asking Richard Dawkins to be subtle.  :P

I've read The Chronicles of Narnia. I already know subtlety isn't Lewis' long suit.

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Reply #2080 on: January 09, 2012, 02:52:28 PM
Well, I finished "Out of Oz". It was... okay.

Since I just saw the US adaptation of Dragon Tattoo (I've also seen the Swedish one), I'm rereading the book.

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Reply #2081 on: January 10, 2012, 04:04:26 AM
Well, I finished "Out of Oz". It was... okay.

I read the first three books in this series.  I loved "Wicked", but each book was progressively worse than the last.  I'm really waffling on reading the latest.



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Reply #2082 on: January 10, 2012, 04:24:09 AM
Well, I finished "Out of Oz". It was... okay.

I read the first three books in this series.  I loved "Wicked", but each book was progressively worse than the last.  I'm really waffling on reading the latest.

I personally really dug 'Son of a Witch,' though it was a sure battle getting into it.

Once I did, though, it really paid off for me and I found it excellent. For some reason Maguire's writing style is just so, so hard to adjust to.



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Reply #2083 on: January 10, 2012, 01:15:09 PM
I just finished reading Bioshock: Rapture, the prequel novel to the video game series.

Meh. I guess I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up over a video game novel, but the games were so compelling I thought the book would be as well. It's got a whole lot of what I like to call "Titanic Syndrome": I already know what's going to happen to these characters - I know who's going to be dead before the game proper beings, and I know who's going to live long enough to be killed by me - so it's hard for me to form any emotional attachments to them. Despite a few clever twists, there wasn't much to distinguish itself.

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Reply #2084 on: January 10, 2012, 02:48:35 PM
Well, I finished "Out of Oz". It was... okay.

I read the first three books in this series.  I loved "Wicked", but each book was progressively worse than the last.  I'm really waffling on reading the latest.

I personally really dug 'Son of a Witch,' though it was a sure battle getting into it.

Once I did, though, it really paid off for me and I found it excellent. For some reason Maguire's writing style is just so, so hard to adjust to.

"Out of Oz" is better than the middle two, but "Wicked" is still the top one.

Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

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Reply #2085 on: January 10, 2012, 04:50:35 PM
Listening to M. John Harrison's Viriconium, which I'd read about five years ago. It's actually three novels and a collection of short stories all in one package. I'm just about done with the first novel, and it's STILL freaking awesome.


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Reply #2086 on: January 10, 2012, 10:15:46 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

You mentioned that at the end of the previous thread page. What you didn't mention was how you thought the American language version compared with the Swedish/Dutch production. I've not see the American language version (yet) but I'd find it hard to believe someone could top Noomi Rapace's Lisbeth.


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Reply #2087 on: January 10, 2012, 11:38:20 PM
It's been a while since I posted here, so I figured I'll do a quick survey of the stuff I've read recently enough to stick in my memory.

Over the holiday, I've read books 2 and 3 in the Johannes Cabal series - Johannes Cabal the detective and The Fear Institute. They're both entertaining diversions but not much more. The third book, especially, suffers from the fact that it is a humorous take on the Lovercraftian Mythos, which is rather well-trod ground.

Later, I read the rather excellent Embassytown by China Mieville. I'd definitely recommend this one, especially to people who liked The City & The City.

Now I'm about a third of the way through The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern. I'm really enjoying this one, but it's definitely not going to be everyone's cup of it - it suffers from a strong case of style over substance. It's also pretty slow in its pacing, which isn't a problem for me because I'm enjoying the prose, but I can't really comment on the plot since it's just starting to get going. Maybe as the book progresses my opinion of it will change, either for the better or for the worse.




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Reply #2088 on: January 11, 2012, 04:23:48 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

You mentioned that at the end of the previous thread page. What you didn't mention was how you thought the American language version compared with the Swedish/Dutch production. I've not see the American language version (yet) but I'd find it hard to believe someone could top Noomi Rapace's Lisbeth.

I think I might write something for the EP blog, but in short I think Mara played the character a little TOO Asperger's. Rapace at least was happy from time to time, but Mara I don't think EVER smiled. Interestingly, their screaming is almost exactly the same.

Plus, there was a final scene in the American one that was intended to make the viewer feel a certain way about Lisbeth... but I just ended up thinking "really? REALLY? You've learned all this stuff about Mikael and now you're going to act THIS WAY?" It left me walking out of the theater with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth that I didn't have at the end of the Swedish one.

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Reply #2089 on: January 14, 2012, 10:58:56 PM
I just finished reading Bioshock: Rapture, the prequel novel to the video game series.

Meh. I guess I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up over a video game novel, but the games were so compelling I thought the book would be as well. It's got a whole lot of what I like to call "Titanic Syndrome": I already know what's going to happen to these characters - I know who's going to be dead before the game proper beings, and I know who's going to live long enough to be killed by me - so it's hard for me to form any emotional attachments to them. Despite a few clever twists, there wasn't much to distinguish itself.
I know that feeling. There was a game that came out in October called Rage. The premise of the video game is that there is a huge asteroid on a collision course with earth. To survive the asteroid, the governments of the world bury people in these egg shaped burrowing machines called "arks" that are equipped with cryogenic chambers. The arks will burrow under the earth for 100 years or so until it should be safe for humanity to rise again.

I thought the opening chapters were pretty cool and the few video play throughs I saw looked awesome. I've been on a post apocolypic kick lately so it seemed like a decent idea to grab the book and the game. I should have known better and not wasted my money. Not only was the book only so-so, the video game itself was horrid as well.

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Reply #2090 on: January 15, 2012, 01:31:33 AM
Just finished The Name Of The Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. It was an interesting and enjoyable read. A work colleague recommended it and although I don't really go in for epic fantasy much anymore, I checked out the Amazon reviews and they seemed largely positive so figured I'd try it out.

I almost gave up on it. My yardstick is usually, "do I care about the characters and what happens to them next?" Until I was about a third of the way through the answer was, "no." The writing is perfectly fine and I could see that an epic story was being told. I just didn't care about what happened to Kvothe. And the magic system had echoes of both The Belgariad and Master of the Five Magics so I was tending towards, "yeah, seen this before."

When Kvothe finally entered the University, my interest kicked in and kept me going until the end. There's some great stuff in there; the poor kid overcoming insurmountable odds; the friendships; the implacable enemy; the mysterious woman, the music; the learning. All very well done indeed.

But I have nagging doubts about the framing mechanism. It seems slightly unwieldy and wholly unnecessary to me -- quite a distraction, in fact. I suppose that it will all resolve itself in the end but if felt like an uncomfortable fit with the rest of it.

Still, this is clearly a popular and well-loved story. I enjoyed it but wasn't knocked out by it. Thoughts, anyone? I'm particularly interested as I'm no great fan of fantasy set in an imagined 1300s. (Although if done well, it's fantastic. Heh. See what I did there?)


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Reply #2091 on: January 17, 2012, 02:39:42 PM
Finished the reread of Dragon Tattoo, and my complaints about the US ending... well, apparently it was much more accurate to the book than the Swedish ending was.

I think I'm going to read Mike Doughty's "The Book of Drugs" next.

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Reply #2092 on: February 09, 2012, 03:14:04 AM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

I watched the Swedish trilogy back in April last year when I was laid up from a surgery.
My only comment about the US version is "...because American's don't like to read."

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Reply #2093 on: February 09, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

I watched the Swedish trilogy back in April last year when I was laid up from a surgery.
My only comment about the US version is "...because American's don't like to read."

Yeah, "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" sold 30 million copies.  Americans totally hate reading.

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Reply #2094 on: February 09, 2012, 02:36:30 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

I watched the Swedish trilogy back in April last year when I was laid up from a surgery.
My only comment about the US version is "...because American's don't like to read."

Yeah, "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" sold 30 million copies.  Americans totally hate reading.

30 million worldwide, or just in the US? The number I found on Wikipedia doesn't indicate.

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Reply #2095 on: February 09, 2012, 02:36:44 PM
Buffy Season 8 by Joss Whedon, Georges Jeanty, et al.

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Reply #2096 on: February 09, 2012, 02:42:31 PM
Don't know if I mentioned this, but I'm rereading "Dragon Tattoo" now that I've seen both films.

I watched the Swedish trilogy back in April last year when I was laid up from a surgery.
My only comment about the US version is "...because American's don't like to read."

Yeah, "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" sold 30 million copies.  Americans totally hate reading.

30 million worldwide, or just in the US? The number I found on Wikipedia doesn't indicate.
Worldwide.  But the trilogy has sold 17 million copies in the US, as of last April. (source)

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Reply #2097 on: February 09, 2012, 06:55:18 PM
Reading "Black No More" right now by George Schuyler.  This.  Book.  Is.  Fantastic.
I'm having SUCH a great time reading it!  The guy spares no one in his satire.  It's beautiful.

Should mention I read "Herland", and I liked it well enough.  It started to annoy me when I realized Gilman was just another rich white lady interested in eugenics and the upper classes.  Sigh, and it was such a nice piece of feminist discourse up until then!
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Reply #2098 on: February 10, 2012, 07:49:27 PM
Finished listening to John Scalzi's Fuzzy Nation, which was pretty much everything you'd hope for from a Scalzi book - including bacon! Actually, it resonated with me more than I expected to. Good show.


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Reply #2099 on: February 12, 2012, 03:36:07 PM
Just started Stephen Baxters "Flood".  One of my favorite authors, looking forward to this one.

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