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on: November 20, 2009, 07:53:31 AM
I often find myself out of step with many people, on account of not enjoying stuff a lot of others do.

Example 1: Seinfeld. This has a huge following but I've never found it that great. Sure, there are funny episodes but overall, I really cannot see the attraction. The best bits are Jerry's (faux?) stand-ups. The rest of it is meh.

Example 2: (Aussies only I guess) Aussie "comedian" Wil Anderson. Seriously -- the guy goes for the soft targets and his delivery is subpar. There are plenty of better comedians -- why's he get all the attention?

What about you?


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Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 08:25:05 AM
pop music. :P

The Rolling Stones.  yeah I like them a bit, but I can't listen to a lot of them, and... ehhh I'd usually rather listen to something else.

Twilight.

and I'm right there with you with Seinfeld.  funny show when I've seen it but not so overly hilarious I have to keep watching omgness.

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Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 08:40:39 AM
Definitely with you on Seinfeld, about all I liked were Kramer's slapstick.  Michael Richards certainly was typecast, always playing the bumbling clumsy guy.  Transylvania 6-5000, Airheads, UHF, Seinfeld, all variations on the same character basically.

Beatles.  Don't get me wrong, their talented, and I understand that without them we wouldn't have much of the music we have today, but most of it I don't care one way or the other about, it's not like britney, or Backdoor boys, or N'stink, but I am not going out of my way to listen.

Reality TV.  I hate it, loathe it, it is the bane of television.  at least with the TLC/Discover reality shows they offer some educational information, but crap like American Idol, Dancing with the Stars etc.  I just don't get it.  Then again  maybe if instead of bubblegum pop and popuntry they were singing something that actually takes a bit more talent I might understand a little.  Industrial Idol, Skanking with the Stars, America's got Punk.  Non mainstream music I guess, so I shouldn't expect it on mainstream tv but, do I have to be forcefed the same crap that is on commercial radio on television too?

Bob Marley, again talented, but after a while the songs all sound the same.


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Reply #3 on: November 20, 2009, 05:34:01 PM
I fully agree with you too lowky.
I really do like the beatles, and I've even gone to a really good cover band concert, but they are over hyped.  Same with bob Marley, fun music but one song is about all I can really enjoy

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Reply #4 on: November 20, 2009, 05:56:48 PM
I have to disagree with The Beatles commentary - at least for me, I find the more I hear of their stuff, the more I really dig it.

My choir performed a "british invasion" concert last Saturday, obviously we did a lot of Beatles stuff.. really fun to perform. One of the songs we did was a seemingly rather obscure one called "Good Night" that's really very lovely. It just really gave me an appreciation of their talent as songwriters as well as performers.




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Reply #5 on: November 21, 2009, 02:29:52 AM
I have to disagree with The Beatles commentary - at least for me, I find the more I hear of their stuff, the more I really dig it.

My choir performed a "british invasion" concert last Saturday, obviously we did a lot of Beatles stuff.. really fun to perform. One of the songs we did was a seemingly rather obscure one called "Good Night" that's really very lovely. It just really gave me an appreciation of their talent as songwriters as well as performers.



And that's what's so great, we can disagree.  I really enjoy some of their songs, Rocky Raccoon is probably my favorite Beatles tune. I will say this, If the Beatles were happening now, and not about 40 years ago, They would not be nearly as popular, I think they would be more than most musicians today, they would be more than one hit wonders, but they wouldn't have the devotion of fans that they experience today. 


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Reply #6 on: November 21, 2009, 03:00:28 AM
I'm gonna add bob dyllan to my list

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Reply #7 on: November 21, 2009, 03:26:33 AM
I have to disagree with The Beatles commentary - at least for me, I find the more I hear of their stuff, the more I really dig it.

My choir performed a "british invasion" concert last Saturday, obviously we did a lot of Beatles stuff.. really fun to perform. One of the songs we did was a seemingly rather obscure one called "Good Night" that's really very lovely. It just really gave me an appreciation of their talent as songwriters as well as performers.



And that's what's so great, we can disagree.  I really enjoy some of their songs, Rocky Raccoon is probably my favorite Beatles tune. I will say this, If the Beatles were happening now, and not about 40 years ago, They would not be nearly as popular, I think they would be more than most musicians today, they would be more than one hit wonders, but they wouldn't have the devotion of fans that they experience today. 

dear god that looks like one of my students wrote it.  What a horrible run on sentence i produced.


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Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 11:38:10 PM
I will say this, If the Beatles were happening now, and not about 40 years ago, They would not be nearly as popular, I think they would be more than most musicians today, they would be more than one hit wonders, but they wouldn't have the devotion of fans that they experience today. 

But yeah, that's the reason they were popular because they were 40 years ago. It's kinda like looking back at Nosferatu and comparing it with... I dunno... The Lost Boys or something (jeez, lousy comparison). An early example of the genre vs. a later example. Some early examples hold up really well; others look tired and dated.

I would not dare to say which The Beatles are ;-)

I will say I've never found The Stones all that compelling.


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Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 11:51:30 PM
ummm im gonna add the snuggie to my list.  ive seen people wearin em, its pretty funny.  and by funny i mean sad.

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Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 02:34:24 AM
I'm gonna add bob dyllan to my list

Bob Dylan is at his best when somebody else is performing one of his songs.  ;D

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I will say I've never found The Stones all that compelling.
Glorified bar-band, is all they are to me.

Three "classic" rock acts I never got: Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, the Rolling Stones.

I recognize the importance of the Beatles, but I don't care if I never hear their music again.  Same goes for Led Zeppelin and most other "classic" rock.

Never been inclined to try watching Seinfeld.

... and have I ever mentioned that I have no great opinion of Firefly?
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Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 02:46:43 AM


Three "classic" rock acts I never got: Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, the Rolling Stones.

Neil Young I understand somewhat, and again like the Beatles was very influential on bands after him.  Stones like you say a good bar band, and I think to some extent rode on the Beatles coattails to popularity. 

I recognize the importance of the Beatles, but I don't care if I never hear their music again.  Same goes for Led Zeppelin and most other "classic" rock.
Zeppelin I like more, also Pink Floyd, but then I like hard rock and metal more than pop.  Beatles some of their songs sound better to me performed by others as well, but not always.  Like Helter Skelter, I think the Motley Crue version is better (I know I know it's Motley Crue still)  I think it was meant to be a harder song, than the Beatles were able to do with the Technology and skill of their time period.  U2 on the other hand fucked up Helter Skelter (Why am I surprised it's U2, Joshua tree was their last good album.  Then fame went to Bono's head). 







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Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 05:00:57 PM
I'm gonna add bob dyllan to my list

Bob Dylan is at his best when somebody else is performing one of his songs.  ;D

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I will say I've never found The Stones all that compelling.
Glorified bar-band, is all they are to me.

Three "classic" rock acts I never got: Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, the Rolling Stones.

I recognize the importance of the Beatles, but I don't care if I never hear their music again.  Same goes for Led Zeppelin and most other "classic" rock.

Never been inclined to try watching Seinfeld.

... and have I ever mentioned that I have no great opinion of Firefly?

Are you indifferent to chocolate and kittens too, by any chance? :P



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Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 05:02:33 PM
And that's what's so great, we can disagree. 

No we can't! EVERYONE must agree with me. Or else face the wrath of my Wet Whipping Noodle of Doom.



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Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
And that's what's so great, we can disagree. 

No we can't! EVERYONE must agree with me. Or else face the wrath of my Wet Whipping Noodle of Doom.
I agree with you.

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Reply #15 on: November 23, 2009, 07:42:16 PM
And that's what's so great, we can disagree. 

No we can't! EVERYONE must agree with me. Or else face the wrath of my Wet Whipping Noodle of Doom.


promise?

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Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 02:58:54 AM
And that's what's so great, we can disagree. 

No we can't! EVERYONE must agree with me. Or else face the wrath of my Wet Whipping Noodle of Doom.


promise?

I agree with Ms_Mac


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Reply #17 on: November 24, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
Are you indifferent to chocolate and kittens too, by any chance? :P

No, just Firefly.

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Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 12:58:24 AM
Are you indifferent to chocolate and kittens too, by any chance? :P

No, just Firefly.
I liked Firefly enough, and would watch it if they brought it back.  But the fans who have an orgasm every time Joss Whedon writes something really annoy me.  I was going to bring it up with some fan friends of mine, but one of them was wearing a "Joss Whedon is my master" T-Shirt. sigh. 



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Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 01:08:33 AM
Despise the Stones, indifferent to The Beatles, but I get Springsteen and Dylan.  It's the poetry, man.  Especially Springsteen.  There's kind of a white-trashy despair to his early stuff that really punches my buttons.
My pick for over-rated would be Jack Kerouac.  I've tried to read on the road twice, and I just can't do it.  All I really want to see happen is for Dean Moriarty wrap one of those stolen cars around a light post and snap his neck.
Go ahead and throw Neal Stephenson into the mix (ducks flying rocks).  Sorry, but Big Idea stories without a good story, or without even decently constructed prose, sucks.  I slogged through Snow Crash and Anathem before I reached this unpopular conclusion.



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Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 04:50:51 AM
I don't get any "popular" music on the radio since about 1990 or so, and how it can sustain itself financially. Somebody has to be buying it, and I want that foolishness to stop so that decent indie and alternative bands can feed their families.

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Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 05:00:58 AM
I liked Firefly enough, and would watch it if they brought it back.  But the fans who have an orgasm every time Joss Whedon writes something really annoy me.  I was going to bring it up with some fan friends of mine, but one of them was wearing a "Joss Whedon is my master" T-Shirt. sigh. 
Get that person a "I am Joss Whedon's bitch" t-shirt for Christmas.  ;D

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Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 05:12:15 AM
Bob Dylan is at his best when somebody else is performing one of his songs.  ;D
Funny, I have always said the same thing about Niel Young.

Three "classic" rock acts I never got: Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, the Rolling Stones.
I just never got "classic" rock at all. There's very little from that genre that I actually would choose to listen to.

Zeppelin I like more, also Pink Floyd.....
Never understood the appeal of those groups. All the disadvantages of "classical" music, but none of the advantages, I've always said.

Wow, after all that negativity, I'm sure someone is thinking "Well, what do you like?" But, I'm afraid that would be an answer for another thread.... like Guilty Pleasures  :D



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Reply #23 on: November 25, 2009, 02:51:54 PM
Bob Dylan is at his best when somebody else is performing one of his songs.  ;D
Funny, I have always said the same thing about Niel Young.

Except that I've never heard anybody cover a Neil Young song, while the Byrds' "Mr. Tambourine Man" and Jimi Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower" are considered the definitive versions of those songs (to name a couple of examples).

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Reply #24 on: November 25, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
Except that I've never heard anybody cover a Neil Young song....

Wow, there are tonnes of them....
   Sisters of Mercy do an amazing cover of Like a Hurricane. I seriously get blown away ;)
   Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, and Radiohead have all done good covers of Cinnamon Girl
   Radiohead have also covered On the Beach, Down by the River, and Tell me Why
   Oasis have done Hey Hey My My
   Johnny Cash did Heart of Gold
And that's just what I could come up with in 5 minutes...