when the end comes !

[Russell Nash]

thats easy
the work is already half done for us!
day time TV, the ultimat zombifier

That's it. Bob Barker was the zombie overlord.  Can you believe he almost got away after leaving that show?  Quick get your weapons.  We're going to Hollywood.

[Thaurismunths]

That's it. Bob Barker was the zombie overlord.  Can you believe he almost got away after leaving that show?  Quick get your weapons.  We're going to Hollywood.

Well, that explains the whole 'not dieing' thing.

[slic]

So, I took a long, hard look on Google Earth today, and I'm so boned.

Have we determined how good zombies will be at tracking us down?
If you could hole up in the basement for 24-48 hours, I'm thinking the zombies will just chase down all the easy pickings first.  Then you use your handy periscope to have a quick peek around and if the coast is clear, you load up the Monster Masher you showed us earlier and drive over top all the cars in your way to the nearest island.

[BrandtPileggi]

I'm thinking we (escape pod community) should all try to make our way to San Francisco when this all goes down (on second thought, add a few more select people. I'm going to put Jessica Alba and Rosario Dawson on my RSVP). Here's my reasoning as to why San Fransisco is the greatest Zombie hold out in the world.

1. San Francisco has a large proportion of homosexual males. This means that a larger part of the zombie pie will have tastes that are far too discriminating for sci-fi geeks... although... Our larger brains may only serve to put us on the top of the overpriced, trendy, zombie menus, completely screwing us. If that were to occur, we'd have...

2. Bridges. By strategically using the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges as choke points, you can minimize the directions from which the zombies can come at you but eventually, you'll have to pull back to...

3. Fisherman's wharf. If you're going to be holed up, might as well do it in a fun place with good food and SEALS!!! Eventually the zombie seals will overtake the cute ones... Anyhoo. The shape of the place would funnel the zombies right down the center. The second level would serve as a great tactical point from which hellfire can be rained down upon the undead. But again, you'll eventually have to pull back to...

4. The Beach!!! YaY! Bonfires lit by perfectly dried, riggored corpses. Champaign looted from local stores. Gentel music played by local musicians and all the bongs and bricks of medical Marijuana will make this spot extra special as you fall asleep to the groans of brain hungry damned. They will of course be kept at bay by a half circle of burning corpses surrounding the secured zone. The perimeter of course will have to be maintained by several people on a rotating basis in order to allow for the final move to...

5. Alcatraz! The perfect Zombie fortress. Although zombies might be able to swim, they would do so too slowly to actually keep them afloat, which means they'd have to walk the distance along the bottom floor to get to the island. However the island of Alcatraz has 2 top notch Zombie defenses.
  a. Swift currents - Enough to wash away any slow moving zombie people, seals or sea horses
  b. Vicious man eating sharks - If the make it into the water and even a quarter of the way, the shark population would explode due to food abundance, repelling the invasion even further

At Alcatraz, every day will be a holiday as we all fall asleep to beautiful sulfury glow of San Francisco ablaze, in our safe, cozy new zombie-proof home.

[ClintMemo]

5. Alcatraz! The perfect Zombie fortress. Although zombies might be able to swim, they would do so too slowly to actually keep them afloat, which means they'd have to walk the distance along the bottom floor to get to the island. However the island of Alcatraz has 2 top notch Zombie defenses.
  a. Swift currents - Enough to wash away any slow moving zombie people, seals or sea horses
  b. Vicious man eating sharks - If the make it into the water and even a quarter of the way, the shark population would explode due to food abundance, repelling the invasion even further

At Alcatraz, every day will be a holiday as we all fall asleep to beautiful sulfury glow of San Francisco ablaze, in our safe, cozy new zombie-proof home.

That could be a movie...
"Escape to Alcatraz"

[oddpod]

so
we all know that its not long till the end of the word , but will it defanatly be zombeas?
what other ends are thare?
any that are often ignored by the un-wise?

[Russell Nash]

so
we all know that its not long till the end of the word , but will it defanatly be zombeas?
what other ends are thare?
any that are often ignored by the un-wise?

I've always thought Vampires were the real threat.

[BrandtPileggi]

so
we all know that its not long till the end of the word , but will it defanatly be zombeas?
what other ends are thare?
any that are often ignored by the un-wise?

Children... Cute ones.

I mean... They DID have a crusade. Logic dictates that it's only a matter of time before they try it again, but this time, against the whole world, in larger numbers and with better technology that confuses and enfuriates adults.

Now right about here is where I'd put my detailed list of children's plans to take over the world. Unless someone requests it... It's Sunday. I'm lazy. But mark my words, You'll remember this as children force feed you brussel sprouts until you renounce your adulthood.

[oddpod]

i renounced my adulthood loooong ago

i recon if the ferst childerans crusade is anything to go buy then we have littel to wory about, unles you are a parent that is

[BrandtPileggi]

"Failures are finger posts on the road to achievement. "
-C. S. Lewis (1898 - 1963)

[Planish]

Somewhere I saw a solar powered battery charger. IIRC, It charged a pair of AA's in about 8 hours.  I plan on getting a few of those. I already have about a dozen rechargeable AA's - and 4 wind up lights.

If it charges NiMH batteries, PM me a link when you find it.

I bought a box of 8 solar-powered LED path lights for real cheap (from Home Depot or WalMart maybe?), and they work just fine as all-purpose battery chargers. They came with a pair of NiCad AA batteries each, but NiMH batteries are fine too. I take them camping, some for night-lights and some to charge batteries for flashlights, radios, etc. You just have to remember to take the batteries out of the ones you don't want to let run down overnight.

Speaking of renewable resources, the indie band "The Mekons" have a wunnerful song about using zombies as a resource.
Check out http://www.epitonic.com/albums/oooh.html and download the "Dancing In The Head" mp3.

[wakela]

Umm...
Hello?
Hello?!

[Russell Nash]

I have a real problem with all of the hack and slash solutions to fighting zombies.  Now I admit I'm new to the whole zombie thing (beyond the basic stereotype), but if we're assuming only destruction of the brain can stop them, by the time yout down to using swords, it's game over.  You can't take more than a couple at a time before you'll just be crushed under bodies.

[Thaurismunths]

I have a real problem with all of the hack and slash solutions to fighting zombies.  Now I admit I'm new to the whole zombie thing (beyond the basic stereotype), but if we're assuming only destruction of the brain can stop them, by the time yout down to using swords, it's game over.  You can't take more than a couple at a time before you'll just be crushed under bodies.

I think the hope is that you're only using your sword when there are a few of them around.

Do you have another strategy?

[Russell Nash]

I have a real problem with all of the hack and slash solutions to fighting zombies.  Now I admit I'm new to the whole zombie thing (beyond the basic stereotype), but if we're assuming only destruction of the brain can stop them, by the time yout down to using swords, it's game over.  You can't take more than a couple at a time before you'll just be crushed under bodies.

I think the hope is that you're only using your sword when there are a few of them around.

Do you have another strategy?

Well, if the only way to kill them is the brains thing, then high impact bullets.  None of this pansy 9mm crap. 

For all of my chooses you need to use hollow point or dum dum bullets.  These are bullets with no armor piercing capability.  They don't go through things.  They hit things and pull it with them.  This means they won't go through a door, but they will take the back half of a head with them on their way out.

The classic Colt .45 M1911 for closer in action.  The design requirements from the army was for a handgun that would stop a charging horse dead in its tracks.  It's only a seven shot gun, so I'd have to find extended clips.  They're legal in Virginia.  I'll pick up a few there.

When I have a little more space or for sniping, I'd switch to the AR-15.  This is a civilian—semi automatic—version of the M-16.  It has a smaller projectile, but it travels faster than a normal round.  For extra damage you could use tumblers which are bullets that don't hold the tight spiral and start to, well, tumble.  They just causee a huge mess when they hit, but they cut down the effective range.

The less refined, but tougher AK-47 or even AK-74 would be good to have for times when you just need to throw some lead or for crawling through some mud and don't want your weopon to jam.

US Claymore landmines would be the preferred base defense when you think they're going to come all at once.

And the ultimate wishlist piece. A mama deuce .50 Machine Gun.


I listed mostly civilian stuff.  Until the claymores I didn't list anything I hadn't seen in a South Jersey gun shop.

[Thaurismunths]

Those are some FINE tools you listed there, all but the .50 cal. You'll have to have a HMMWV just to haul the ammo on that.
However, I think you underestimate the effectivity of a 9mm. You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

[oddpod]

what bout us limes!!

we arnt alowed all the fun toys you lot get
dose any one know how to make fire arms out of comen house hold items?

[Russell Nash]

Those are some FINE tools you listed there, all but the .50 cal. You'll have to have a HMMWV just to haul the ammo on that.
However, I think you underestimate the effectivity of a 9mm. You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

A 9mm doesn't have the juice to really get in there except at really close range, and you have to be dead on.  The .45 will take of the side of the skull where the 9mm would have just ricocheted.  The .50 caliber went with the claymores as a defensive tool.

I figured when I was out and about, I'd be on a mountain bike or motorcycle with the AR-15 slung over my back and the .45 on my hip.  A lot of the problems with getting around  are solved when you're on two wheels.

[Russell Nash]

what bout us limes!!

we arnt alowed all the fun toys you lot get
dose any one know how to make fire arms out of comen house hold items?

Technically I'm screwed too.  I'm living in Berlin.  Getting firearms here is almost as bad as in England.  Although I'm not very far from the American Consulate and there is a Marine detachment and an military S.W.A.T. team there.

[Thaurismunths]

Those are some FINE tools you listed there, all but the .50 cal. You'll have to have a HMMWV just to haul the ammo on that.
However, I think you underestimate the effectivity of a 9mm. You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

A 9mm doesn't have the juice to really get in there except at really close range, and you have to be dead on.  The .45 will take of the side of the skull where the 9mm would have just ricocheted.

That's a good point.
That, and a .45 is just so much fun to shoot!

I figured when I was out and about, I'd be on a mountain bike or motorcycle with the AR-15 slung over my back and the .45 on my hip.  A lot of the problems with getting around  are solved when you're on two wheels.

Definitely. Especially if you're in the open, such as rural areas.

[Thaurismunths]

what bout us limes!!
we arnt alowed all the fun toys you lot get
dose any one know how to make fire arms out of comen house hold items?

Fear not!
www.bombshock.com/fronts/weapons.html
www.butokukai.com/HOMEMADE_WEAPONS.html
www.thehomegunsmith.com/

[BrandtPileggi]

Those are some FINE tools you listed there, all but the .50 cal. You'll have to have a HMMWV just to haul the ammo on that.
However, I think you underestimate the effectivity of a 9mm. You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

A 9mm doesn't have the juice to really get in there except at really close range, and you have to be dead on.  The .45 will take of the side of the skull where the 9mm would have just ricocheted.  The .50 caliber went with the claymores as a defensive tool.

I figured when I was out and about, I'd be on a mountain bike or motorcycle with the AR-15 slung over my back and the .45 on my hip.  A lot of the problems with getting around  are solved when you're on two wheels.

I kind of like the tricycle better. Sure, you may not ge the speed of a 2 wheeler, but you do get:

1. Better manuverability
2. Tighter turning radius
3. Those flat spots in the back for someone to stand on (with numchucks of course)
4. A good laugh cause face it; You're gonna die.

[Russell Nash]

Those are some FINE tools you listed there, all but the .50 cal. You'll have to have a HMMWV just to haul the ammo on that.
However, I think you underestimate the effectivity of a 9mm. You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

A 9mm doesn't have the juice to really get in there except at really close range, and you have to be dead on.  The .45 will take of the side of the skull where the 9mm would have just ricocheted.

That's a good point.
That, and a .45 is just so much fun to shoot!

Edit:
One other thing on the .45.  If I turn a corner and there are two zombies, the 9mm only does me any good if I blow there brains out.  A shot from a 9mm in the chest will do nothing.  At close range if I hit one with a .45 in the chest, I either blow out his spinal column or, more likely, I knock him back off his feet.  This gives me time to blow the other's head off or knock him off his feet.  Then I can start blowing brains out. 

I figured when I was out and about, I'd be on a mountain bike or motorcycle with the AR-15 slung over my back and the .45 on my hip.  A lot of the problems with getting around  are solved when you're on two wheels.

Definitely. Especially if you're in the open, such as rural areas.

One of the biggest problems we talked about was getting around all of the direlect cars in the streets and on the highways.  That's where the regular motorcycle would really have an advantage.  It's just a lot harder to get trapped when you're on a good bike.

[Thaurismunths]

Those are some FINE tools you listed there, all but the .50 cal. You'll have to have a HMMWV just to haul the ammo on that.
However, I think you underestimate the effectivity of a 9mm. You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

A 9mm doesn't have the juice to really get in there except at really close range, and you have to be dead on.  The .45 will take of the side of the skull where the 9mm would have just ricocheted.  The .50 caliber went with the claymores as a defensive tool.

I figured when I was out and about, I'd be on a mountain bike or motorcycle with the AR-15 slung over my back and the .45 on my hip.  A lot of the problems with getting around  are solved when you're on two wheels.

I kind of like the tricycle better. Sure, you may not ge the speed of a 2 wheeler, but you do get:

1. Better manuverability
2. Tighter turning radius
3. Those flat spots in the back for someone to stand on (with numchucks of course)
4. A good laugh cause face it; You're gonna die.

Zombie propagandist !!

[Russell Nash]

You only have to destroy the brain, not make it a fine pink mist.

Here's a point we skipped by: How much damage do you need to do to the brain?  Can you put a small calliber slug into it and he keeps going?  Does he just end up lurching in circles or does it put him down?

This is another reason why I'm sticking with the .45.